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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 07:42 PM
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suspension questions

I may possibly be coming into some money that can go into my car. I was thinking of SFC's and shock tower brace but besides that im not really sure about what to do suspension mod wise. Any ideas of things in general, brands, and links are all appreciated. I am thinking I may have a budget for suspension stuff of around 3 grand. Thanks for the ideas.
Old Sep 19, 2003 | 08:27 PM
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subframe connectors (boxed)
strut tower brace
lower control arms
panhard bar
torque arm
springs

bilstein shocks

that should all total less than $3K even if you pay for install
Old Sep 19, 2003 | 09:12 PM
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BMR quality....

http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread...hreadid=374871

5+ failed phb's and I'm sure there are more. I wouldn't put that stuff on my car.

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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 11:03 PM
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Originally posted by teke184
www.bmrfabrication.com

subframe connectors (boxed)
strut tower brace
lower control arms
panhard bar
torque arm
springs

bilstein shocks

that should all total less than $3K even if you pay for install
I would do sway bars before springs or torque arm
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5+ failed phb's and I'm sure there are more. I wouldn't put that stuff on my car.
I have lots of BMR stuff on my car and its all good quality IMO. Reading that post, it appears that the bushings may be the weak point.

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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 11:13 PM
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I have lots of BMR stuff on my car and its all good quality.
agreed.
Old Sep 20, 2003 | 05:12 AM
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I don,t think BMR makes bad parts.
I think the parts were used in the wrong application like Sam said in his post.
You need rod ends in the PHB if they are used in auto Xing applications, too much stress for a poly bushing.
For Drag Racing on the other hand they will work fine.

There is a reason rod ends are available in those parts.
Old Sep 20, 2003 | 07:54 AM
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Sub Frame Connectors ... Kenny Brown Double Diamond
Shock Tower Brace ... Hotchkiss 2 point
Lower control arms, they help control wheel hop.

Then what about some bigger sway bars, I'd recomend a hollow 35mm bar up front (Hotchkiss) and perhaps a 21mm bar in the rear.

Hope this helps

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Old Sep 20, 2003 | 10:08 AM
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nothing wrong with BMR in my opinion.

Get subframe connectors to keep the car from getting those rattles or getting rid of rattles.. They get rid of some..

The most noticeable suspension stuff that ive done have been bilstien HD shocks (stock springs) and my 32mm SLP sway bar.

I'd do those 2 before anything else.
Old Sep 20, 2003 | 12:32 PM
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Nobody in FS (stock class) autocross breaks their factory panhard bar. If you compare G2 to BMR you'll see their parts are made to much higher standards. For one BMR's rod ended LCA's and PHB's use cheap $7 rod ends (which rattle and pop within one week) where as LG uses $30 QA1 endura rod ends which last for ever and are quiet. BMR even warns against using their rod ended components on the street whereas LG's are perfectly fine for that.
Old Sep 20, 2003 | 08:21 PM
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wow, thanks for all the replies guys. i wasnt expecting that many responses, but thanks and maybe i will even post when i get that stuff done with pics.
Old Sep 20, 2003 | 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by WOT
If you compare G2 to BMR you'll see their parts are made to much higher standards.
They are both advertised as being made from 1.25" steel tubing. Both poly bushed pieces use the same type of bushings. Both have grease fittings. What is the "much higher standard"?
BMR's rod ended LCA's and PHB's use cheap $7 rod ends (which rattle and pop within one week) where as LG uses $30 QA1 endura rod ends which last for ever and are quiet.
BMR's panhard rod is $50 less expensive than LG's, just about exactly the difference in the cost of the rod ends. You get what you pay for.
BMR even warns against using their rod ended components on the street whereas LG's are perfectly fine for that.
Actually, BMR recommends against using them on the street. Maybe because their low end rod ends are noisy?
I have no experience with LG's products. There may be features that make LG's panhard rod better than BMRs, but you have not given any examples of them. You have only bashed BMR. I have found BMR's products to fit well and perform as advertised. On the other hand I have talked to an owner of LG's $495 non-adjustable torque arm which hit the transmission tunnel. LG was unwilling to address the shortcomings of their product. BMR's excellent customer service is well known.
Old Sep 21, 2003 | 10:16 PM
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get some eddlebrock lowering springs they are sweet and they stop nose dive in hard brakling
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 10:24 AM
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I would say, in this order:

Sub Frame Connectors, tubular BMR ($140) + $60-$100 for welding it in
Bilstein HD shocks ($300-$350) Install yourself
Front 35mm swaybar($150) Install yourself

That would be great.

Next would be Lower Control Arms if you have wheel hop.

Dan
Old Sep 24, 2003 | 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by Bud M
They are both advertised as being made from 1.25" steel tubing. Both poly bushed pieces use the same type of bushings. Both have grease fittings. What is the "much higher standard"?


Actually It's not the tubing that was suspect in the LS1.com thread but rather the metal encasing the poly bushing.

BMR's panhard rod is $50 less expensive than LG's, just about exactly the difference in the cost of the rod ends. You get what you pay for.
Well, obviously. That's what I'm talking about-there is a reason why BMR is cheap.

Actually, BMR recommends against using them on the street. Maybe because their low end rod ends are noisy?
Let's not get picky over exact wording. Yes, noise is exactly why and cheap rod ends will open quickly and the ball will smack the race under load. A rod end failure is not a pretty thing.

I have no experience with LG's products. There may be features that make LG's panhard rod better than BMRs, but you have not given any examples of them. You have only bashed BMR. I have found BMR's products to fit well and perform as advertised. On the other hand I have talked to an owner of LG's $495 non-adjustable torque arm which hit the transmission tunnel. LG was unwilling to address the shortcomings of their product. BMR's excellent customer service is well known.
Done nothing but bashed BMR? I posted a thread in which SEVERAL people had failures with BMR products. show me some pictures of broken G2 parts. I do not consider them well designed at all-just beefed up versions of the stock items they replace. As for customer service I've had nothing but great experiences with LG Motorsports as have others.
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