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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 02:43 PM
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is there a problem running a 2k stall on a cc306 or gm847 besides it taking off at lower rpms? I know if I were to race I wouldn't launch as good but anything else?
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 02:52 PM
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is there a problem running a 2k stall on a cc306 or gm847 besides it taking off at lower rpms? I know if I were to race I wouldn't launch as good but anything else?
You can drive it on the street, but it wont launch hard at the track.
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 02:58 PM
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is there a problem running a 2k stall on a cc306 or gm847 besides it taking off at lower rpms? I know if I were to race I wouldn't launch as good but anything else?
They suggest more stall for those cams. In the 3k area at least. Also, just because it's a DD doesn't mean to can't have more stall. I'm at 3200 and it's very streetable, and my mileage was not affected.
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 06:11 PM
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i'm not going to the track so I'm not worried about launching. And lower stall should keep tranny temps down and help mileage out a little bit.
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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Stock short block reving over 6.3K is a crap shoot. Some make it, others dont.
Ill vouch for the "others don't" stock cam even.
Im sure the rev limiter bouncing never helped.
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by twcblackhand6970
I plan on buying a gm847 or similar cam soon and want to know exactly how high you can rev a stock rotating assembly with good springs a 1.6 rr without affecting its reliability...

So to restate the question. How high can you safely rev a stock lt1 without affecting its reliability because it is my DD and I don't want to blow something out.
Do a search for something along the lines of "I spun a bearing after putting in a new cam." IMO, the way to go is with a cam that makes its power lower... like all done by 6K. This makes for a good street car and lowers the odds of a problem.

May I suggest reading this thread...

https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=492036

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Old Dec 5, 2008 | 09:25 PM
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I would not put a cam in any daily driver. What happens if you spin a bearing? Your fuct
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 10:05 PM
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I'm not spinning over 6k to be safe, so I don't think I'm going to spin any barings by over revving
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by twcblackhand6970
I'm not spinning over 6k to be safe, so I don't think I'm going to spin any barings by over revving
I personally agree with this very conservative approach, esp. because it's a DD. From what I've read, the GM847 might be a waste with a 6K rev limit. Go with something smaller. That Crane 227 in the post I referenced seems to have some pretty positive comments for an engine operating within the stock rev range. It might actually be faster on the street since you won't need to rev the crap out of it to make some power.
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 10:33 PM
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how many miles are on the shortblock? if you keep it under 6100-6200 you should be good.

Make sure the install is as clean as possible.
Old Dec 5, 2008 | 11:03 PM
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well, I'm buying this cam now because I don't what to buy two cams from when I get le2 heads. I just bought a cam from CKJ on LS1LT1.com. He said it is very streetable and will do great on LE2 heads but will function good with stock, just not fully. Which is what I was aiming for. The shortblock has maybe 5kmiles on it from fresh barings and new piston rings/oil pump.
Old Dec 6, 2008 | 07:15 AM
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From what I've read, the GM847 might be a waste with a 6K rev limit.
Its the equivilant to having Megan Fox (see avatar) laying naked on the bed with sumpin in mind, then you firing up your laptop to surf on cz28.com boards instead. A MAJOR WASTE.

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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by twcblackhand6970
i'm not going to the track so I'm not worried about launching. And lower stall should keep tranny temps down and help mileage out a little bit.
That's not exactly a quality stall you have there. So through out the idea that your keeping your tranny temps down. No bashing, just informing you. A Vig. 2800-3000, or Yank 3200-3400 would really wake your car up. You already have the right gears to make a higher stall converter drive nicely on the street.
If your worried about opening up the motor, install some Hotcam springs and 1.6 full roller rockers. As I mentioned before, my small cam pulls to the rpm your looking for. My LE heads where done before he had stages, but are close to the LE2s. It's better to have slighter better flow than to have a cam that is too big. The cams your still talking about will be a waste without some higher rpms that what you stated.
Old Dec 6, 2008 | 12:59 PM
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I know the brand stall I got isn't the best and the 2k stall is low, but I'm not going to the track so I'm not worried about launching and don't plan on acceding 400hp when I get heads for now. I got the stall to let me get off dead stop without having to rev. And I know cam will not live to full potential but atleast it will give me a BIG jump from stock. I've seen stock dynos on these forums I think where the GM847 and CC306 made 350+rwhp and tq on stock heads with supporting mods.
Old Dec 6, 2008 | 01:22 PM
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if you are only spinning the motor up to 6k rpms then don't get the 847 or cc306. I wouldn't even bother with the cc503 with that low of a range. Look I to a 211/219 or cc305 or hot cam or something smaller.

If however you are willing to rev up to 6400 any of those cams will work MUCH better.



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