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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 11:39 PM
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When i was in high school and used to manage a bike repair shop we used the 1:10 ratio when discussing lighter bicycle wheels. They have most of the mass around the circumfrance (sp?) though. I'll trust Herb even though i haven't gotten around to picking up his books. He must be one smart **** for so many people to revere him as a guru.
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 06:32 AM
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can i ask why? shoot me a PM-
dotn want to clutter up a tech section
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awaiting a PM from you

also keep in mind this post was made about 6.5months ago-
before i took physics in college
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 07:57 PM
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Eeeesh... wish I didn't bring this thread back... while were at it discussing weight reduction... what items would you guys if you had "infinite" funding for, replace with billet aluminium peices to save some weight. I have access to a CNC machine now!
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 08:09 PM
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Originally posted by OldSStroker
You might seriously considering changing your major.

Good luck to you.
Doh!

He didn't just say that did he?!?!....... now even I'm in denial

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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by treyZ28
[Balso keep in mind this post was made about 6.5months ago-
before i took physics in college [/B]
I think it still applies
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 08:48 PM
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Originally posted by Mindgame


now even I'm in denial

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Swimming in Egypt again, huh?
Old Jun 12, 2003 | 07:11 AM
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Originally posted by Mindgame
Doh!

He didn't just say that did he?!?!....... now even I'm in denial

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Hehehehe....you guys are good!
Old Jun 12, 2003 | 05:27 PM
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Trying to reduce unsprung weight on a F-body with lighter wheels is pointless, when the heavy live axle is a majority of the unspung rear weight. You still get the benefits of lower inertia, however.
Old Jun 12, 2003 | 07:18 PM
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Currie 9" Aluminium rear end.... whole housing to specifications is only $685.
Old Jun 12, 2003 | 10:11 PM
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Trying to reduce unsprung weight on a F-body with lighter wheels is pointless, when the heavy live axle is a majority of the unspung rear weight. You still get the benefits of lower inertia, however.
I disagree to an extent.
seeing how the 98 TA wheels are about 6-8 lbs lighter than salad shooters a peice-
its an easy appearance upgrade and weight reduction.

Its also very cheap after you sell your old salad shooters. I bought my car used with 48# Chrome wheels. First thing i did was lose them and get fresh rubber on the salads. yeah- about 20# a wheel = massive differance. the 16 vs 17'' wheel was also a welcomed comfort
Old Jun 12, 2003 | 10:15 PM
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Originally posted by treyZ28
I disagree to an extent.
seeing how the 98 TA wheels are about 6-8 lbs lighter than salad shooters a peice-
its an easy appearance upgrade and weight reduction.

Its also very cheap after you sell your old salad shooters. I bought my car used with 48# Chrome wheels. First thing i did was lose them and get fresh rubber on the salads. yeah- about 20# a wheel = massive differance. the 16 vs 17'' wheel was also a welcomed comfort
Trey I haven't seen you online lately I had a couple questions I'll PM you...
Old Jun 13, 2003 | 03:54 PM
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Originally posted by treyZ28
I disagree to an extent.
seeing how the 98 TA wheels are about 6-8 lbs lighter than salad shooters a peice-
its an easy appearance upgrade and weight reduction.

Its also very cheap after you sell your old salad shooters. I bought my car used with 48# Chrome wheels. First thing i did was lose them and get fresh rubber on the salads. yeah- about 20# a wheel = massive differance. the 16 vs 17'' wheel was also a welcomed comfort
Run the numbers for the rear unsprung weight and you'll see that even with a wheel weight reduction of 6-8 lbs each, the rear unsprung weight is still huge compared to the front suspension's unsprung weight.

The rear end of our cars is the weak link, in terms of unsprung weight. 12-16 lbs reduction is good, but considering the rear unsprung weight is approx. 300lbs, it's only a 4-6% decrease.

You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. The f-body will never have decent ride quality or rear suspension response with a heavy live axle, regardless of what wheel's are used.

Now, go with the wheel change AND the Curry aluminum axle, and you'll begin to feel the difference!
Old Jun 13, 2003 | 03:56 PM
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Was worth $50 to me in appearance alone

hell if i took offf 32 lbs of sprung non-rotational weight and made my car look beer for $50 i'm content
Old Jun 13, 2003 | 04:06 PM
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