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rocker arms first, then cam later questions... and 224/230 or 230/236?????

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Old Mar 4, 2003 | 10:23 PM
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rocker arms first, then cam later questions... and 224/230 or 230/236?????

Alright here is my new idea. Car is a 93 Z with mods in sig. 3.23's A4 stock converter.

This is my daily driver. I will have some time off next week to work on the car. But I don't want to rush the cam swap also. How long would it take to do the rockers and springs next week if installing them myself? then in a couple months do the cam when I get off school for summer.

Now on to the cam, I need driveability, with good power for street driving. I would like a power boost on 40-50 mph and 60-80 mph runs.

the 2 cams I was considering are comp XE 224/230 (.502/.510) or 230/236 (.510/.520). It would have to idle good and not stall out.... all around power is good, not just a huge peak somewhere, and I don't want to have to rev so high to get the power. I will also be replacing the timing chain.

My goal is to break into the 12's. I think that is very realistic. mid 12's would be great!

Any advice would be appreciated.
Old Mar 4, 2003 | 10:25 PM
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Also, I won't have money for a new torque converter yet so please take that into consideration. Maybe next year
Old Mar 4, 2003 | 10:33 PM
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where are you going to buy it? im looking for the same cam, how about getting a group purchase? i know it is off the topic sorry! just wondering
Old Mar 4, 2003 | 10:37 PM
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www.cmotorsports.com

they have a nice package with your choice of cam. give them a call






and guys, I have stock heads, not going to be ported anytime soon. Not within a year or 2
Old Mar 4, 2003 | 11:36 PM
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the CC503 cam (224/230) is too big for your needs AND i think it would be a horrible match for your 3.23's and stock converter.Hell,even the HOT Cam is too big for those. I hope you have all the other supporting mods (headers,exhaust,CAI,TB,Gears,TC) BEFORE you do the cam,otherwise you might be disapointed with the mediocre results compared to the work you put in.
Old Mar 4, 2003 | 11:56 PM
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Originally posted by MauriSSio
the CC503 cam (224/230) is too big for your needs AND i think it would be a horrible match for your 3.23's and stock converter.Hell,even the HOT Cam is too big for those. I hope you have all the other supporting mods (headers,exhaust,CAI,TB,Gears,TC) BEFORE you do the cam,otherwise you might be disapointed with the mediocre results compared to the work you put in.
I think he could get away with the hotcam. 3.23 gears arent that bad, especially since he is wanting mostly street driving and I would imagine decent mileage. Also, if you would have read his sig, you would have realized that he does have the headers, exhuast, and cai. I dont believe that he needs the TB for a mild cam. Gears at stall seem to be the main things missing, and he could do those along the way, or even afer he does the cam if he gets a reasonable cam.

For what you want I would definately avoid the 230 236. It is too big. Honestly I would suggest something like the hotcam or something in the same area of size.

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Old Mar 5, 2003 | 02:17 AM
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I had a 224/236 on stock heads and ran 12.5's, best of a 12.3.... Though I do have a 6 speed.


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Old Mar 5, 2003 | 05:38 AM
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The 224/230 is fine with stock heads/converter. I've been running it this way for nearly 9 months and my idle is 850. About the only issue I have is I need to press on the brakes a bit harder at red lights.

I had a shop do my trans fluid recently (30k miles on the fluid + a cam swap with my idle that high) and everything was in great shape. BTW - I did install a supercooler just in case.

I think this cam is about as much as I'd go with a stock converter though.. It made the car so much more fun to drive. But I really didn't sacrifice too much on the driveability issue either. I did lose a bit below 3000rpm, but that was barely noticeable. In fact my wife couldn't even tell. That is until it gets some rpm's, then it scared the crap out of her

From my experience with the 224/230, I have no problems recommending it with an A4.
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Originally posted by MauriSSio
the CC503 cam (224/230) is too big for your needs AND i think it would be a horrible match for your 3.23's and stock converter.Hell,even the HOT Cam is too big for those. I hope you have all the other supporting mods (headers,exhaust,CAI,TB,Gears,TC) BEFORE you do the cam,otherwise you might be disapointed with the mediocre results compared to the work you put in.

224/230 is not to big for what hes asking. i have a buddy on
stock heads, stock manifolds, running a 230/236. and it does ok. (could be better)

hes not asking to much. accually i think that cam will fit his need the best. but from what it sounds like he wants i think he should get it on a 114.
Old Mar 5, 2003 | 08:01 AM
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Ok I'm back to the 224/230 now.

The LSA is the question now. What are the benefits of 112 or 114?
Old Mar 5, 2003 | 08:41 AM
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Ok I'm back to the 224/230 now.

The LSA is the question now. What are the benefits of 112 or 114?

the greter the lsa the more torqe and better driveability. and the and the hp curve is more broad, and the higher your peak will occur.

less lsa- pretty much the oppisite.
Old Mar 5, 2003 | 09:06 AM
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Would the 112 be terrible for 50% street, 50% highway driving?
Old Mar 5, 2003 | 09:09 AM
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2 more questions:

With the 114 LSA, would you still hear that the car has a cam? I don't want it to sound stock.... I have a very revealing exhaust too


and,

which grind would I want that down the road will work with a NX wet nitrous kit?
Old Mar 5, 2003 | 10:07 AM
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from what youve said so far as to what you want i think the 224/230 on a 112 lsa. will do great for you
Old Mar 5, 2003 | 10:11 AM
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I believe a 112 will make more power. My friend has a post in the advanced tech and they are telling him for max power go with the 224/230 on a 110. The post is duration vs lift vs power or something you will see it the thread starter is turbo_Z



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