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Old Dec 21, 2007 | 12:52 PM
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Question Q about Cold Air on a traction control Z28?

hello all, forgive me if this has been covered but I have a question about putting a Cold air Induction on my 96z28 that has traction control and ASR.
1st off why does every Cold Air kit always say "for non traction control camaro"? I have traction control and the Lovely ASR on my 96 Z28 vert, do they make cold air kits for traction control camaros and also why in the world cant i put a regular Cold air kit on my Z28? I dont get how the Cold Air kit would affect my traction control or my ASR??
if anyone would be nice enough to explain to me the info on this i would really appreciate it..thanks
Old Dec 21, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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I've never seen an advertisement say it was for a non-traction control car. The traction control module is no where near where the CAI runs.
Old Dec 21, 2007 | 01:20 PM
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Ok I have never found one yet that didnt say w/o traction control..K&N, Moroso etc..
I still dont get why it would matter at all since its no where near the air filter assembly
Old Dec 21, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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When I used to have a K&N FIPK cold air it said not for cars with traction control but I put it on my car anyway that has TCS. I think that it has something to do with where the TCS hooks up to the ABS valve body. The CAI tube kinda touches it. It worked fine, I'd say go for it.
Old Dec 21, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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Ok thank you I was more concerned that some way it may trigger the dang "Low trac" light to stay on or something or my ASR light to stay on, again i still dont see how having traction control could affect using a cold air kit but like i said every dang mnfr says "without traction control"
Old Dec 21, 2007 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MeanGreen97Z
I've never seen an advertisement say it was for a non-traction control car. The traction control module is no where near where the CAI runs.
This is true, and I've never seen an explanation from K&N or others as to why they state this.
Old Dec 21, 2007 | 02:36 PM
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i have the k & n on my 95 z28 and i have the asr........

i had to bend some of the brake lines out of the way........ but it works!!!
Old Dec 21, 2007 | 02:58 PM
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You've got me curious. I think I am going to call up K&N and see if they have an explanation after the holidays.
Old Dec 21, 2007 | 05:28 PM
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thanks to all who posted, doesnt seem like anyone knows why they all say "w/o traction control"...but there has to be a reason why they state that ecspecially since so many Camaros have Traction Control...
I am beginning to think this may be a "who really shot JFK kind of question"
I guess i may have to call K&N and see if they know why it says it but was hoping someone on here would know
But I did see where someone had to bend the brake lines to get it to fit I am thinking this may be why they stae "w/o traction control" as that would be a good reason why they say it...
Old Dec 21, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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i have an off brand cold air kit for my 95 z28 with asr and it has a notch cut out of the intake tube where it passes by the abs unit. never really thought abut it beeing any different for a non asr car though.
Old Dec 22, 2007 | 12:40 AM
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Lignefelter's and SLP should work.

I had the same confusion when I was shopping for a CAI, its annoying that they don't explain why it wont work with Traction Control.

Lingenfelter's CAI says it will work with Traction Control.

SLP's used to say that it worked with Traction Control, but the web page no longer says that. I just put the SLP on my car and it works fine. It does touch one of the brake lines, but I don't think thats going to be a problem. I originally bought the K&N but to put it on I would have had to bend the brake lines more than I was comfortable with.
Old Jan 21, 2008 | 07:52 PM
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I know the reason they say they don't fit. It's because there is an extra brake line that comes off the front of the ABS module on cars with ASR. It makes a cold air induction a tight fit. Many people have successuflly wedged them in, but the companies don't wan't to be responsible if you stress that brake line and cause a leak and run over a bunch of school kids.

The Lingenfelter cold air fits because they made a dimple where that brake line goes, but they don't fit too well for other reasons. On my car, I installed an SLP cold air and heated it up and made a dimple for the brake line.

Look at pictures of ABS modules on non-ASR cars, then compare it to yours you'll see what I mean.

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Old Jan 22, 2008 | 08:43 AM
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I've seen that warning too. I have always ignored it and have not had any problems.
Old Jan 25, 2008 | 09:57 PM
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The Lingenfelter cold air fits because they made a dimple where that brake line goes, but they don't fit too well for other reasons.
Can you or someone explain why it doesnt fit too well for other reasons?
Old Jan 26, 2008 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Lee96Z28
I know the reason they say they don't fit. It's because there is an extra brake line that comes off the front of the ABS module on cars with ASR. It makes a cold air induction a tight fit. Many people have successuflly wedged them in, but the companies don't wan't to be responsible if you stress that brake line and cause a leak and run over a bunch of school kids.
, exactly.

Traction control cars have a solenoid that can control the pressure to each rear wheel brakes seperately, hence the 2 brake lines going to the rear vs. the non-traction control cars that have one and then branches. There is a brake line from the top of the ABS unit that goes towards the front of the car, then downward in front of the ABS unit, and to the ASR solenoid underneath it. It has nothing to do with the big black box on top of the valve cover.

I called K&N about this, since it does say that theirs will not work on traction control cars. Obviously they told me it would not work, but they didn't know why (stupid customer service). But I ordered it anyway. The CAI definitely fits, but requires a little bit of convincing because of the tight space created by this extra brake line. It fits, and clears the hood on mine, and I've had no brake trouble at all in the 2 years I've had it.



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