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Project Heads/Cam 236/242 is complete, its ALIVE and Running!!!

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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 11:08 PM
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Congrats man! I bet it's a beast!

...can't wait to get my setup installed...I've got a lil bigger cam though...and will be running on stock bottom end too
Old Mar 12, 2003 | 11:53 PM
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Thats cool you guys are from Hennepin. I am from Peru. I'll have to bring my SS rumbling through town sometime this spring.
Old Mar 13, 2003 | 12:37 AM
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CONGRATS man, I cant wait to hear this cam and see what kind of #s you put down. When I was looking at cams it was down to this one or a 230/236 110 LSA, I went with the smaller one bcuz it didnt needed to be reved that high, and I did feel safe spinning the stock bottom to 7000 to get the most out of the cam. All I have to say is I hope the #s you put down prove the nay sayers wrong.
Old Mar 13, 2003 | 03:17 AM
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I honestly cant see the stock bottom end being able to rev high enough to justify getting it. You have some big ones if your revving the stock bottom end 6500+.
Grips 230/236 on a 383 revs to 6500
i'm sure you can rev much higher on that cam and a 383.

Sure it may be streetable, but is it justifyable?

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I have that cam in my 383
Its justifyable if he wants to try it. Just because you run the cam in a 383 does not say nobody can run it in a stock bottom end.
Old Mar 13, 2003 | 03:26 AM
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Its justifyable if he wants to try it. Just because you run the cam in a 383 does not say nobody can run it in a stock bottom end.
never said he cant.
i'm just saying its doubtful that he can spin it high enough to use the full potential of the cam in my opinion.
Old Mar 13, 2003 | 04:12 AM
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I'm thinking of going with the same cam.
Old Mar 13, 2003 | 08:19 AM
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I just finally had a chance to check my post here, and I was suprised to see all the replies. Personally, I dont think I will need to rev to 7K to get the full potential of this cam. Right now the shift points are set at 6200 for now, and we will find out later on the dyno where it makes peak power at. I am not going to rev the stock bottom end past 6500 unless I really need to. On the street, I dont even let it go up to 6200 to shift, I just let it shift at about 5800 for now, as I dont want to hurt my tranny before I head to the dyno. A friend of mine has this cam, and if I remember correctly, he made peak power before 6400, but dont quote me on this. DAN K, if you happen to read this, please chime in on when Brandons made its peak power. I was going to have the car dynoed this weekend, but I cant get to the trailer in the corner of the backyard, and my dad has to work and I want him to go down with us. My tentative date for the dyno tune will be March 29th, and then on the 30th it goes to Billingsey Racing for a Chrome moly 6 point roll bar etc. Right now I cant really drive the car anyway because my dipstick tube is blowing oil out, and I cant get the car on the our lift in the garage. If it wasnt so muddy out, it wouldnt be a problem. I am considering a different stall when I pull out the transmission this spring. I was just gonna get a VIg 3600, but I will wait and see what they recomend to me.

How come everyone on here thinks this cam is so much bigger than the 306, when everybody runs the 306 on stock motors?shorblocks and revs them to the moon??

Casey96SS,
Send me an email and I will give you my cell number and we can meet up sometime this spring. If you ever been up to Ottawa on the weekends during the summer, you will know that there are alot of very quick cars up there, just be careful who yourace
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Well I gtg, and will hopefully have the dipstick tube fixed to today so that I can drive the car some more.

Brian
Old Mar 13, 2003 | 08:47 AM
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It should make some more power through alot of the rpm range, but will also peak higher than say a 230/236. So even if he isnt going to rev high enough to actually hit or use the peak power (6500+) it still should make more power lower.
Old Mar 13, 2003 | 02:33 PM
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Glad everything turned out alright.

When you taking her to the track or dyno?
Please keep us posted. I'm in the middle of doing a similar setup right now.
Old Mar 13, 2003 | 05:20 PM
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I'm glad to hear that the cam is more streetable than I thought and has a decent bottom end and I'm glad you like it. My car is in the shop and its getting ported heads and a GM 847 cam (234/242) The powerband of that cam is 3000-6000rpm. I'll have dyno results in about 2 weeks and track results the first week of April. My programming is done by PCMForless.
Old Mar 13, 2003 | 05:59 PM
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Glad to see it's working well for you. I've got a similar XE grind on order for my 383.

BYE-BYE CC305
Hello XE 236/248 on a 114

Not optimal on motor, but it should work well on a big shot of juice, and I may be able to squeek by emissions with the DFI. If the 350 guys are passing with the cc306 /112 and LT1 edit, I figure I have a chance... we'll see.
Old Mar 13, 2003 | 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by Camaro90RS
I dont think I will need to rev to 7K to get the full potential of this cam.
Wait until we get to the dyno. You might be suprised. This cam will want to rev on a stock bottom end.

I am not going to rev the stock bottom end past 6500 unless I really need to.
I don't think you'll want to. That's asking for problems.
How many people are spinning a stock bottom that high? Might be something to ask.
I wouldn't think it would be a good idea. Valve float might become a problem too.

A friend of mine has this cam, and if I remember correctly, he made peak power before 6400, but dont quote me on this. DAN K, if you happen to read this, please chime in on when Brandons made its peak power.
Hmm...right now he shifts it at 6000 and it goes no faster if he shifts it higher. His car likes the torque with the little gear and big tire. But remember, there is something wrong with his car, we just haven't pulled it apart yet. Too many projects at once.
And remember, his is a 396. That matters.

I am considering a different stall when I pull out the transmission this spring. I was just gonna get a VIg 3600, but I will wait and see what they recomend to me.
I'm thinking that 3600 is a minimum.

Casey96SS,
Send me an email and I will give you my cell number and we can meet up sometime this spring. If you ever been up to Ottawa on the weekends during the summer, you will know that there are alot of very quick cars up there, just be careful who yourace
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Casey...I went to IV with you. I remember you.
And Brian...there aren't any fast cars over here. Quit telling people that.
Old Mar 13, 2003 | 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by Dan K
Wait until we get to the dyno. You might be suprised. This cam will want to rev on a stock bottom end.



I don't think you'll want to. That's asking for problems.
How many people are spinning a stock bottom that high? Might be something to ask.
I wouldn't think it would be a good idea. Valve float might become a problem too.



Hmm...right now he shifts it at 6000 and it goes no faster if he shifts it higher. His car likes the torque with the little gear and big tire. But remember, there is something wrong with his car, we just haven't pulled it apart yet. Too many projects at once.
And remember, his is a 396. That matters.



I'm thinking that 3600 is a minimum.


Casey...I went to IV with you. I remember you.
And Brian...there aren't any fast cars over here. Quit telling people that.
I agree, I think the Xe 230/236 or even 224/230 would yeild better results, that is all I am trying to say. I got some private messages about me bashing him/his car.

Not the case at all. My point is, if you only want to rev to 6500
why get a cam with a power range of 4000-7000 instead of 3500-6500? thats anohter 500rpms thats being used, better idle, better brakes, less gas less valve train stress.
bigger isn't always better-
its a lot like getting a 3600 stall for a stock motor.
sure its better than stock, a lot better. but why not get a 3000?

i think a 3800 stall would be nice
Old Mar 13, 2003 | 09:42 PM
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Thats cool you guys are from Hennepin. I am from Peru. I'll have to bring my SS rumbling through town sometime this spring.
Ooh, I'd like to see your car some time. I might have already, because when it's nice out I cruise alot in Peru. It's awesome to find people somewhat close on this board.


Well guys, I wanted to get the video of the first startup on here, but it looks like it's just gonna be a sound file. When I transfer the video to my computer, the audio is really behind the video, like 3 seconds behind. So until I figure it out it will just be an audio file.
Old Mar 13, 2003 | 10:02 PM
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http://www.boomspeed.com/ls103/startup.wav

It's not the best quality, but my boomspeed doesn't have much space so it really does sound 100x better than this file. This is open headers, don't mind the first 8 seconds or so. Incase all you people wonder what we're talking about, Brian's oil pressure sender wire or whatever it was fell off. So don't mind the first 8 or so seconds of us talking about it some.



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