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Old Apr 15, 2003 | 02:35 AM
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Unhappy Problems with closed loop............

The car runs excellent till it warms up. Then it develops the infamous stumble around 2300 RPM. If I down shift it and floor it, it cleans out. What would be some items to check for before scanning the PCM(tuned by Bryan)? I need to get this thing figured out especially since now its warming up. Also usually I get the SES light when it starts to do this but the PCM doesn't seem to store the code. The T/A has a new crane cam, mildly worked LT1 heads, edelbrock headers(no cat), new opti, CSI water pump, MSD wires and coil. Any suggestions would be great.
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 07:25 AM
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I would check or replace O2's, especially if they have over 50,000 miles on them and/or exhaust leaks before the O2's.
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 07:25 AM
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Did you Verify that it's a Closed Loop Issue or does it just seem to happen warm? It could be your intake bellow is torn, your O2's are Bad, Mass-Air, Etc.

Just some places to start
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 07:28 AM
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is closed loop like running with no o2's plugged in!
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 12:16 PM
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Closed loop is when the PCM Uses inputs from all Sensors Open Loop is used during warm-Up cycle and O2 Inputs are ignored till O2's reach temprature so if it runs bad when warmed up check your O2's
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 01:23 PM
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compare your injector pulse width between the banks as you increase rpm. generally you'll catch one thats slower than the other. A lazy injector is common and sounds like your problem.
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 01:31 PM
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what year is your car? sounds like you need some tuning.
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 01:55 PM
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SORRY.... I meant to say it could be a lazy 02 sensor if the IPWs arent the same
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 01:56 PM
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The vehicle has new 02 sensors and a new 1LE bellows. Everything has been replaced on it and the PCM was tuned by PCM4LESS. The reason I believe its a closed loop problem is because it happens between 1300-2300 RPM and acts like its trying to load up but as soon as I downshift it clears out. At WOT it runs great or when its still cold and hasn't reached operating temp. Im going to contact Bryan and see if it could be a problem with the program and also I plan on pulling the plugs on the o2 sensors and running it at operating temp to see if the problem goes away.
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 02:18 PM
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hooking up a scanner can help you determine what the problem is.
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