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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 09:19 AM
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Question Fuel pump issues

I was on my way to work this morning and i stepped on it to get on the highway. i was in third gear climbing up to around 5000 or so and then it felt like it quit pulling. I noticed this a few days ago as well in third gear. If i get on it in first it pulls hard all the way to 6100 and my shift light comes on. I am wondering if this could be a fuel issue.

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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 04:49 PM
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Could be a slipping transmission or maybe a severe lean issue on top.
Old Jun 25, 2009 | 08:32 PM
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When i got home today i tested my fuel pressure with the ignition on and engine on 38 with the vacuum line off 42. Now this is where it gets weird. I put the cap back on schrader on the fuel line and tried to crank it. It started but idled real low and then died. It wouldnt crank after that at all. I put the fuel pressure tester back on it and i have no pressure at all. When i turn the ignition on i hear the fuel pump click but i don’t hear it whine like it used to for a second. Anyone have any ideas? I am thinking it is my fuel pump.

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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 07:27 AM
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Ohh sorry, I did not notice you have a Tremec T-56, I guess that rules out transmission slip.

You should tape the fuel pressure gauge to the windshield and monitor it as you drive (car under load). Should have 41-44 psi under full open throttle. What you are doing is not a adequate test since you want to see if the fuel pump cam keep up at higher injector duty cycles. Testing at idle is not sufficient and may not disclose real fueling issues.

I am confused on how you test, did you test fuel pressure with engine off, ignition key on and found sufficient fuel pressure, then tried to start it and noticed no fuel pressure? If so, then obviously your fuel pump is weak.
Old Jun 26, 2009 | 08:03 AM
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I just dont know why i dont have any fuel pressure at all now.
Old Jun 26, 2009 | 12:06 PM
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if you're not hearing the fuel pump when you turn the key then I would start there.
Old Jun 26, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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Thats what i was thinking. Does anyone recommend a good replacement?
Old Jun 26, 2009 | 10:16 PM
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Another Update

I went out today when i got home and it starts up now. I put the fuel pressure tester back on it and with the ignition on and engine off i get 20. When i bled the pressure tester down before removing it and it wont start now. No fuel pressure at all now. If you bleed down the fuel rail how long should it take to prime it?
Old Jun 28, 2009 | 04:26 AM
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It should happen in a matter of seconds, have you replaced your fuel filter lately? Also how many miles do you have on your car? Could be a fuel deficient fuel pump.
Old Jun 28, 2009 | 07:32 AM
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Try running the pump with the fuel pump prime connector, next to the PCM. That will bypass the relay and the PCM signal, and verify if the pump will run and can produce the required pressure to prime the system.

Shoebox has a photo:

http://shbox.com/1/fuel_pump_prime.jpg
Old Jun 28, 2009 | 07:04 PM
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Fuel filter was replaced about a month ago.
Old Jun 28, 2009 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Injuneer
Try running the pump with the fuel pump prime connector, next to the PCM. That will bypass the relay and the PCM signal, and verify if the pump will run and can produce the required pressure to prime the system.

Shoebox has a photo:

http://shbox.com/1/fuel_pump_prime.jpg
I will try that when I get home tonight. Thanks
Old Jun 29, 2009 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Injuneer
Try running the pump with the fuel pump prime connector, next to the PCM. That will bypass the relay and the PCM signal, and verify if the pump will run and can produce the required pressure to prime the system.

Shoebox has a photo:

http://shbox.com/1/fuel_pump_prime.jpg
How do i test it with that wire?
Old Jun 30, 2009 | 04:22 PM
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Found my answer. Thanks again Injuneer

Because its only used to supply temporary power to the fuel pump, bypassing the pump relay and the PCM permits, to test the fuel pump. There is no matching connector to connect to it. You run 12V power from the battery to the connector to test the pump.
Old Jul 1, 2009 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Injuneer
Try running the pump with the fuel pump prime connector, next to the PCM. That will bypass the relay and the PCM signal, and verify if the pump will run and can produce the required pressure to prime the system.

Shoebox has a photo:

http://shbox.com/1/fuel_pump_prime.jpg
I tried this and it didnt make a difference. SO is it safe to say that it is my fuel pump? It has about 182,000 miles on it.



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