Which oil to use?
Which oil to use?
Hey! I recently bought a 93 Z28 and i am busy bringing her up to code. Its time for an oil change, but i dont know which oil to use. The engine has 239K on the motor so i am guessing i'll need a thicker oil. I was thinking about using a single grade like a sae30 or sae40, but wanted to hear from you all.
I live in California and we dont have any extreme winters so cold starting shouldnt be a problem.
I live in California and we dont have any extreme winters so cold starting shouldnt be a problem.
Re: Which oil to use?
I'd use any decent 10W-40 dino stuff. My own brand of choice is Kendall GT1. But I can't say that is based on real assumption of superiority. It's just that I have used it for years without a problem.
http://www.kendallmotoroil.com/NR/rd..._GT1_HP_MO.pdf
Rich
http://www.kendallmotoroil.com/NR/rd..._GT1_HP_MO.pdf
Rich
Re: Which oil to use?
I will third the 10w-40 recommendation.
The second number is the key one brand 10w-30 can and often is thinner than anothers 0w-30.
Analysis has pretty well shown even lower milage LT1s prefer thick 30wt. to low 40wt. anyway.
The second number is the key one brand 10w-30 can and often is thinner than anothers 0w-30.
Analysis has pretty well shown even lower milage LT1s prefer thick 30wt. to low 40wt. anyway.
Re: Which oil to use?
By the way...
Don't automatically assume that a high mileage engine needs thicker oil. It's true they often do, but if the engine has been properly cared for it's not an issue.
You may have to take a guess the first time, in which case the old standbys like 10w-30 are a good place to start. Then look at your oil pressure gauge and see how you're doing. You want at least 10lbs per 1000 rpm.
One thing...
I've done a lot of research on this subject and one of the interesting things that came up was that when dealing with Dino oil, it's not good to go with anything over a 20-point spread, because it's basically being done with the additives, not the oil. So for instance, 10w-30 is good, but 10w-40 is getting a bit wide. 15w-40 is borderline. Basically, once you go above a 20 point spread, go to a synthetic.
Now look...
I use synthetic, but the bottom line is that if you use a quality dino like Quaker State or any of the other name brand; and change your oil on schedule, you'll be fine.
If you do go to a synthetic, there are many quality brands, with Mobil1 being the most recognizable and not even particularly pricey anymore.
I personally use Amsoil but I use their high-end stuff with extended changes and oil analysis.
The bottom line though is that you want to do three basic things:
1) Regimented oil changes, and do them on time.
2) A quality name brand of oil, whether you go Dino or Synth.
3) Sufficient weight to get you at least 10lbs/1000rpm.
I want to finish by telling you a story regarding oil weight and why I began doing my research.
A while back I owned a 1993 VR6 Passat.
As a traditionalist, I automatically began using 20w-50 Mobil One to protect my engine at the high speeds I like to drive.
I noticed that in traffic my engine temps went alarmingly high, even to the point where the computer would shut off my air conditioning.
On a suggestion from another owner, I switched to a lighter weight oil. I eventually ended up using 10w30 in the summer, 5w-30 in the fall & spring, and 0w-30 in the winter.
I noticed a DRAMATIC drop in engine temps in traffic. I'm talking about 20-30 degrees. I also began getting TWO MPG better mileage. Yes, I said TWO.
Finally, I could FEEL the difference in power in the seat of my pants.
I realize that this goes against the conventional wisdom of thicker oils for performance engine, not to mention the high volume oil pumps we hot-rodders like to use; but it turns out that we old timers were wrong.
Or at least wrong about modern engine with their tighter tolerances.
Don't automatically assume that a high mileage engine needs thicker oil. It's true they often do, but if the engine has been properly cared for it's not an issue.
You may have to take a guess the first time, in which case the old standbys like 10w-30 are a good place to start. Then look at your oil pressure gauge and see how you're doing. You want at least 10lbs per 1000 rpm.
One thing...
I've done a lot of research on this subject and one of the interesting things that came up was that when dealing with Dino oil, it's not good to go with anything over a 20-point spread, because it's basically being done with the additives, not the oil. So for instance, 10w-30 is good, but 10w-40 is getting a bit wide. 15w-40 is borderline. Basically, once you go above a 20 point spread, go to a synthetic.
Now look...
I use synthetic, but the bottom line is that if you use a quality dino like Quaker State or any of the other name brand; and change your oil on schedule, you'll be fine.
If you do go to a synthetic, there are many quality brands, with Mobil1 being the most recognizable and not even particularly pricey anymore.
I personally use Amsoil but I use their high-end stuff with extended changes and oil analysis.
The bottom line though is that you want to do three basic things:
1) Regimented oil changes, and do them on time.
2) A quality name brand of oil, whether you go Dino or Synth.
3) Sufficient weight to get you at least 10lbs/1000rpm.
I want to finish by telling you a story regarding oil weight and why I began doing my research.
A while back I owned a 1993 VR6 Passat.
As a traditionalist, I automatically began using 20w-50 Mobil One to protect my engine at the high speeds I like to drive.
I noticed that in traffic my engine temps went alarmingly high, even to the point where the computer would shut off my air conditioning.
On a suggestion from another owner, I switched to a lighter weight oil. I eventually ended up using 10w30 in the summer, 5w-30 in the fall & spring, and 0w-30 in the winter.
I noticed a DRAMATIC drop in engine temps in traffic. I'm talking about 20-30 degrees. I also began getting TWO MPG better mileage. Yes, I said TWO.
Finally, I could FEEL the difference in power in the seat of my pants.
I realize that this goes against the conventional wisdom of thicker oils for performance engine, not to mention the high volume oil pumps we hot-rodders like to use; but it turns out that we old timers were wrong.
Or at least wrong about modern engine with their tighter tolerances.
Re: Which oil to use?
Analysis has proven the LT1 to perfer thick 30wts to low 40wts. Amsoil tends thich and I think you are grossly overcomplicating thins using different weight different times of year if sticking with Amsoil I would probably just stick with the 5w-30 or 0w-30 year round.
Older 10w-40 was bad as the additives used to make it do that would break down and sludge up but oil today is of signifigantly better quality.
Older 10w-40 was bad as the additives used to make it do that would break down and sludge up but oil today is of signifigantly better quality.
Re: Which oil to use?
I have a 1994 z28...105,000miles...I use AMSOIL 5w30 100% synthetic...no issues.
I'm not saying one is better than the other...just stating what I use and it has not been a problem for me. My car still runs like it's new...that's why I still use it.
I'm not saying one is better than the other...just stating what I use and it has not been a problem for me. My car still runs like it's new...that's why I still use it.
Re: Which oil to use?
Thanks for the great advice you all, but it seems so much more complicated. My motor runs great.. even at its higher mileage. I'll give 10w-30 a try and see how the engine likes it.. I am not sure i know how to ensure that the engine is getting 10lbs per 1000 rpm.. can someone shed some light on that one?
Re: Which oil to use?
Originally Posted by bstieboydp
as far as synthetic mobil1 goes what do you guys recommend the 10-40? or 10-30 cause i know that they run thinner usually
Re: Which oil to use?
i know it sounds stupid but is one better then the other ? (mobil vs. amsoil) or is it just preference thank you for the weight comparisons thats exactly what i was confused on cleared that up for me


