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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 01:17 AM
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Oil pan FYI...

If you guys get a Moroso #20185 oil pan for your LT1, just buy their recommended pump and pick-up tube. I got the 22111 pump and 24213 pick-up that is made specifically for their pan.

Ask me how I know other pumps/pick-ups don't fit
Old Jun 13, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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Does thier pump have a high volume or high pressure option? Is the pump pickup bolt on or just press in? Is it a melling casting and if so, is it a thick or thin casting?

Why won't the other pumps work? Thanks for the info, btw!
Old Jun 13, 2007 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by seawolf06
Does thier pump have a high volume or high pressure option? Is the pump pickup bolt on or just press in? Is it a melling casting and if so, is it a thick or thin casting?

Why won't the other pumps work? Thanks for the info, btw!

The pick-up is a press in (can be tacked on as long as you do not overheat one side), it is a Moroso thick casting (don't know if Melling makes it or not - I'll post back up when it arrives tomorrow), and it is available in a HV configuration. The pick-ups are different for the stock volume and HV pumps.

The other pumps don't work as the pick-up and pump won't sit properly - the pick-up looks like it is reversed
Old Jun 13, 2007 | 06:13 PM
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Crazy! Let us know when you get it done, and some pics would be awesome. Thanks!

Has anyone had the same problem with Canton pans?
Old Jun 13, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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Mike,

You've done enough "learning" the hard way. Hope it all goes smoothly and gets back on the road soon.
Old Jun 13, 2007 | 10:37 PM
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Mike,

You've done enough "learning" the hard way. Hope it all goes smoothly and gets back on the road soon.
True enough. You'd think a reputable shop would know you can't heat up a cast piece of metal (i.e. pump) and expect it not to warp. The oil pump was freakin' ruined, and likely sucked a lot of air at WOT conributing to the demise of the bearings. Still, 120mph ain't bad for an engine built as poorly as mine was - it had to be in the cam and heads
Old Jun 13, 2007 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by seawolf06
Crazy! Let us know when you get it done, and some pics would be awesome. Thanks!

Has anyone had the same problem with Canton pans?
Its the same with the Canton Pans....you need their special pick up depending on the diameter of the inlet on the oil pump. Speaking of which I have an extra Canton pick up and matching Melling HV oil pump for sale.


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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by seawolf06
Is it a melling casting and if so, is it a thick or thin casting?

After reciept today, it is a Melling thick cast pump.
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 01:14 AM
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After reciept today, it is a Melling thick cast pump.
And it's not a bolt on pickup? Interesting...
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 02:28 AM
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Not all pick ups are bolt on....however the canton pick ups utilized for their pans with the Melling pumps are all bolt on.

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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 05:42 PM
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Not all pick ups are bolt on....however the canton pick ups utilized for their pans with the Melling pumps are all bolt on.

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I know, but the Melling Select (thick casting) pumps are supposed to use bolt-on pickups.
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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They make a special tool to drive the stock and other press fit pickups in to the ridge on the tube without damage.
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by seawolf06
I know, but the Melling Select (thick casting) pumps are supposed to use bolt-on pickups.
Yes... I have one myself! They also have a "L" shaped bracket welded on to the tube so that you can bang on the tube to get into the oil pump.


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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 10:10 AM
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Jeg's site said to use the 22110 pump, but it's not on their site and summit has it as N/A. Where did you get the 22111 pump from? What's the inlet diameter?

EDIT: The 22111 pump replaces the 22110 part number.

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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 11:06 AM
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They make a special tool to drive the stock and other press fit pickups in to the ridge on the tube without damage.
Where can you get this? And do you still recommend tack welding the pickup on the pump?
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