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From: Fresno, Ca
Shon's best advice to every LE customer is to go with AI...
If that's what he thinks it takes then so be it, but no one is going to like that kind of answer. Also Shon, I have been reading most of what you've been saying on these boards recently and you do seem to smack talk too much. So you have a fast bolt on car, congratulations. Now instead of being brutally honest with people, why don't you change the way you handle things and possibly be honest with them, but in a nicer fashion so that people feel you are sincerely trying to help them instead of almost make fun of them. Not all of us have the experience and knowledge you have. Your job should be to distribute that knowledge to as many as possible
Oh and I have no real problem with you, just makin some neutral observations
If that's what he thinks it takes then so be it, but no one is going to like that kind of answer. Also Shon, I have been reading most of what you've been saying on these boards recently and you do seem to smack talk too much. So you have a fast bolt on car, congratulations. Now instead of being brutally honest with people, why don't you change the way you handle things and possibly be honest with them, but in a nicer fashion so that people feel you are sincerely trying to help them instead of almost make fun of them. Not all of us have the experience and knowledge you have. Your job should be to distribute that knowledge to as many as possible
Oh and I have no real problem with you, just makin some neutral observations
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Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,213
From: Milwaukee, WI
finally people are seeing what i have been, if your not going to help the guy why bother posting...and yes i have a stock headed car that traps 114, its taken me 1.5-2 years to get it runing that well, it still won't hook though, it just takes time to get the setups dialed in.
Last edited by zx1216; Nov 20, 2006 at 12:41 PM.
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From: Six Mile, SC, USA
{New Shon trying to offer help}
Yes, suspension is one of the biggest factors in setting a car up to run at its best. But also, go to a track that is prepped well and run when the weather is good.
Tuning/Suspension/Track prep/Air is where the "money" is at, you dont need alot of power to go fast, just a well thought out combo.
Yes, suspension is one of the biggest factors in setting a car up to run at its best. But also, go to a track that is prepped well and run when the weather is good.
Tuning/Suspension/Track prep/Air is where the "money" is at, you dont need alot of power to go fast, just a well thought out combo.
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From: TX
With the 1.64 60 foot... I wouldn't call it heavy. 114mph traps is showing either it's falling on it's face in the upper rpm or the car just isnt making any power past the 60' to 330' mark. Get it on the dyno. A look at a dyno graph would help with diagnosing a low mph trap speed. What size tires are you running and what are your shift points set at?
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From: Louisiana, USA
I think it probably has way too much gear and a bad tune b/c a 396 shouldn't need a 3.90 gear no way. I am also sure that LE2 heads are kind of small for a stroker but thats JMO. I ran 117mph with a LE1 package on a 350" LT1 over 2yrs ago and 121mph with LE3 Trickflow heads. We are about to find out what a LE3 package is capable of on my 355" LT1 with some 3.73's in a 3,500lb streetcar.
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From: long island N.Y.
ok heres what shes got
engine
396 ci motor w/ le2 h/c,9:8:1 compression ratio (planned on a little boost but changed my mind when i have enough money i will get afr heads and bump up the cr) ported and port matched lt4 intake, 7 quart canton pan, comp 1:6 pro mag rr nsa, comp hardend pushrods, guideplates, comp r lifters, stock opti, stock water pump, 30lb svo injetors, 58mm bbk throttlebody (done after tune) granetelli maf (done after tune too) moroso cai, ngk tr6 plugs (look a little on the lean side) msd wires, all new ac delco sensors except knock sensor, madz28 tune, all emisions are hooked up with the exception of a cat converter and smog pump. still have a/c and heat hooked up and running.
trans
4l65e trans built by select race transmissions. Its their best 4l65 they can offer w/2800 10inch converter , b&m trans cooler, sfi approved flex plate
(dont have build sheet or specs on the trans at the moment)
rear
moser 12bolt w 33 spline axles, detroit true trac differential, 3:91 gears and support cover
ehxaust
hooker coated long tube headers w/ y pipe to dump before axle to magnaflow catback
wheels and tires
front:275 40 17 tires mounted on chrome zr1 wheels
back:275 40 17 m/t drag radails mounted on chrome zr1 wheels
suspension
stock with the exception of polly bushings in rear, sub frame conectors welded in, spohn trans mounted torque arm, and lakewood lca's, also have no front swaybar
miscelaneous:
stock body full weight @3700 lbs full options leather interior t-top car
also has a walbro 255lph fuel pump curently having slight to moderate vibration issues with the driveshaft since its been shortened, fuel pressuere is set at 48psi
I drive this car every day for about a year now and im getting a daily driver soon. i drove this car the the closest track and back (e town 70 miles away)
it feels great off the line but it seems like shes running out of steem up top and between 53-5800 rpm she has a slight hesitation and then is fine from there on up to 6300 rpm where i shift at.
pic can be seen here of the launch
http://www.skspeed.com/photodetails.asp?key=81
let me know if im forgetting anything else and thanks again for the help and not bashing on my car, its good to see that peole have positive thinking
thanks again
engine
396 ci motor w/ le2 h/c,9:8:1 compression ratio (planned on a little boost but changed my mind when i have enough money i will get afr heads and bump up the cr) ported and port matched lt4 intake, 7 quart canton pan, comp 1:6 pro mag rr nsa, comp hardend pushrods, guideplates, comp r lifters, stock opti, stock water pump, 30lb svo injetors, 58mm bbk throttlebody (done after tune) granetelli maf (done after tune too) moroso cai, ngk tr6 plugs (look a little on the lean side) msd wires, all new ac delco sensors except knock sensor, madz28 tune, all emisions are hooked up with the exception of a cat converter and smog pump. still have a/c and heat hooked up and running.
trans
4l65e trans built by select race transmissions. Its their best 4l65 they can offer w/2800 10inch converter , b&m trans cooler, sfi approved flex plate
(dont have build sheet or specs on the trans at the moment)
rear
moser 12bolt w 33 spline axles, detroit true trac differential, 3:91 gears and support cover
ehxaust
hooker coated long tube headers w/ y pipe to dump before axle to magnaflow catback
wheels and tires
front:275 40 17 tires mounted on chrome zr1 wheels
back:275 40 17 m/t drag radails mounted on chrome zr1 wheels
suspension
stock with the exception of polly bushings in rear, sub frame conectors welded in, spohn trans mounted torque arm, and lakewood lca's, also have no front swaybar
miscelaneous:
stock body full weight @3700 lbs full options leather interior t-top car
also has a walbro 255lph fuel pump curently having slight to moderate vibration issues with the driveshaft since its been shortened, fuel pressuere is set at 48psi
I drive this car every day for about a year now and im getting a daily driver soon. i drove this car the the closest track and back (e town 70 miles away)
it feels great off the line but it seems like shes running out of steem up top and between 53-5800 rpm she has a slight hesitation and then is fine from there on up to 6300 rpm where i shift at.
pic can be seen here of the launch
http://www.skspeed.com/photodetails.asp?key=81
let me know if im forgetting anything else and thanks again for the help and not bashing on my car, its good to see that peole have positive thinking
thanks again
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Jesus.. 9.8:1 compression explains a little... damn.
PS, a stock weight z28 with full options (like mine) tips the scale at 3370 at the track (mine is 3330 with skinnies and no spare).. at the most, 3400 I'd say. Not 3700, not sure where people are getting those numbers from. No driver of course.
PS, a stock weight z28 with full options (like mine) tips the scale at 3370 at the track (mine is 3330 with skinnies and no spare).. at the most, 3400 I'd say. Not 3700, not sure where people are getting those numbers from. No driver of course.
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Joined: May 2000
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From: Peachtree City, GA
Jesus.. 9.8:1 compression explains a little... damn.
PS, a stock weight z28 with full options (like mine) tips the scale at 3370 at the track (mine is 3330 with skinnies and no spare).. at the most, 3400 I'd say. Not 3700, not sure where people are getting those numbers from. No driver of course.
PS, a stock weight z28 with full options (like mine) tips the scale at 3370 at the track (mine is 3330 with skinnies and no spare).. at the most, 3400 I'd say. Not 3700, not sure where people are getting those numbers from. No driver of course.
my car with 0 weight reduction and tons of extra heavy parts is 3550
withuot me in it.
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Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 664
From: long island N.Y.
i dont know ill have to go weigh it again, dont get me wrong but when i first weighed it and saw that i thought it couldent be true but i dident think the scale was off but who knows, btw it was with me in it and a half tank of gas i weigh 145 lbs (light weight i know)
