need help, tried the obvious...
need help, tried the obvious...
Car has been sitting for close to 4 months because of an intermittent "just friggin' die and not start again" condition. I thought it was the optispark because before that, it was eating them every 300 miles or so and corroding the connector blue. I replaced the optispark today as well as the vaccuum harness. The connector was not corroded at all to my suprise, so I re used it.
The car fired right up and I let it idle so the thermo would open and I could top off the coolant. I revved it up too, and everything was normal.I Did that after running for about 15mins. I got in the car, pushed the clutch in, put it in gear and it died. It will not start again.
I disconnected the battery for about 20 mins, reconnected it and tried again, no start. The Scanmaster is showing no DTCs at all and fuel pressure it right where it should be while cranking. The dowell pin is the right length and the opti is on correctly.
What should I check next?
If I can't figure this out, I'll leave it in the garage for another year. I've only put 2800 miles on this POS since the motor got done 2 yrs ago. And its not because I don't like driving it, its because of stuff like this. I can't trust this damn thing to get me to my mailbox.
The car fired right up and I let it idle so the thermo would open and I could top off the coolant. I revved it up too, and everything was normal.I Did that after running for about 15mins. I got in the car, pushed the clutch in, put it in gear and it died. It will not start again.
I disconnected the battery for about 20 mins, reconnected it and tried again, no start. The Scanmaster is showing no DTCs at all and fuel pressure it right where it should be while cranking. The dowell pin is the right length and the opti is on correctly.
What should I check next?
If I can't figure this out, I'll leave it in the garage for another year. I've only put 2800 miles on this POS since the motor got done 2 yrs ago. And its not because I don't like driving it, its because of stuff like this. I can't trust this damn thing to get me to my mailbox.
Re: need help, tried the obvious...
My next move would be COIL.
Check and make sure your getting Fire.
If youre getting spark, check the fuel delivery.
Note: when you crack the throttlebody you can easily smell fuel in the Intake.
In which case, I assume youve checked VAT. The fuel pump cycles correct?
Hope any of this helps
good luck to ya
Brentt
Check and make sure your getting Fire.
If youre getting spark, check the fuel delivery.
Note: when you crack the throttlebody you can easily smell fuel in the Intake.
In which case, I assume youve checked VAT. The fuel pump cycles correct?
Hope any of this helps
good luck to ya
Brentt
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This may sound stupid but, how exactly do you check fire? I pulled a plug wire off, put a screwdriver in it and positioned it so the screwdriver shaft was about 1/4" away from a steel brakeline. I cranked and saw no spark. I then pulled the coil wire off the opti and still saw no spark. Does this method work, or do I need to do it another way?
The fuel pump does charge up when I turn the key on. I put a fuel pressure gauge on the schrader valve as well and when I cranked it, it went up to about 40 and stayed there.
Thanks in advance.
The fuel pump does charge up when I turn the key on. I put a fuel pressure gauge on the schrader valve as well and when I cranked it, it went up to about 40 and stayed there.
Thanks in advance.
Re: need help, tried the obvious...
After the motor got finished, it ate the opti very quickly. I found that the opti was "high centered" on the dowell pin. I ground it down till it did not high center anymore and then ground it down a little more to be sure. When the opti was off the other day, I measured the dowell and it was .60". Is that where it should be?
I tested my coil and it checks out. I have some other tests to do once I can get the battery charged up.
Yes, it is a comp cam, a CC306. When it runs, it runs great, ran the time in the sig last time out with my RAM Powergrip slipping on the upshifts.
I tested my coil and it checks out. I have some other tests to do once I can get the battery charged up.
Yes, it is a comp cam, a CC306. When it runs, it runs great, ran the time in the sig last time out with my RAM Powergrip slipping on the upshifts.
Re: need help, tried the obvious...
Did you convert to a vented opti? I had the exact problem with my car. Ate opti's like crazy and I would get the blue junk from the connector all over the opti terminals. Are you sure the opti is on all the way and is completely flush with the timing cover before your putting the opti bolts in? If yes... SELL IT!!!! LOL
Re: need help, tried the obvious...
Originally Posted by fireman
After the motor got finished, it ate the opti very quickly. I found that the opti was "high centered" on the dowell pin. I ground it down till it did not high center anymore and then ground it down a little more to be sure. When the opti was off the other day, I measured the dowell and it was .60". Is that where it should be?
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Its too long then.
When the opti is on, before I put the bolts on, it doesn't feel high centered or anything.
How long should it be from the face of the cam gear??
Thanks in advance.
Kreinmc--I'm keepin it forever, running or not
When the opti is on, before I put the bolts on, it doesn't feel high centered or anything.
How long should it be from the face of the cam gear??
Thanks in advance.
Kreinmc--I'm keepin it forever, running or not
Last edited by fireman; Mar 3, 2005 at 08:08 PM.
Re: need help, tried the obvious...
I just took some measurments.
Stock cam
tip of dowel to face of cam is .610"
tip of dowel to face of cam gear .385"
On one comp cam tip of dowel to face of cam was .645" ( this cam ran in my car with no problems)
on another comp cam, tip of dowel to face of cam .628
Stock cam
tip of dowel to face of cam is .610"
tip of dowel to face of cam gear .385"
On one comp cam tip of dowel to face of cam was .645" ( this cam ran in my car with no problems)
on another comp cam, tip of dowel to face of cam .628
Re: need help, tried the obvious...
Thanks guys.
As much as I don't think this can ruin an opti in 15 minutes, I suppose this is the problem. All the others have gone 400 miles or so, I guess they are all different.
As much as I don't think this can ruin an opti in 15 minutes, I suppose this is the problem. All the others have gone 400 miles or so, I guess they are all different.


