LT1 Based Engine Tech 1993-1997 LT1/LT4 Engine Related

My mechanic wont fill my a/c comp since it is us under 70*?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-26-2004, 03:28 PM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
ChickenScreamer94's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Crossville, TN
Posts: 486
My mechanic wont fill my a/c comp since it is us under 70*?

He was going to help me put on my new a/c comp(had just put on a new one but after 1500 miles it is leaking again) so he is like "well, i cant cause it has to be over 70* to do it" ?WTF? I also wanted to do plugs and wires at the same time, since there will be more room w/o the comp. WTF is going on with him, is he just pulling this out of his butt or what? I cant use the defrost b/c it makes my belt squeak awfully.

I just found out my IM is leaking again too, after i just fixed it in june UGH! I hate this POS
ChickenScreamer94 is offline  
Old 01-26-2004, 05:34 PM
  #2  
Registered User
 
fozziez28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 441
hmm, thats a new one to me? The plugs thing isnt that bad even with the ac compressor in there, the alternator is the only thing that u would need to remove and the ypipe too to give yourself some more room. I think im gonna heat my garage im out there so much. Anyway, hope that helps. -Michael
fozziez28 is offline  
Old 01-26-2004, 06:19 PM
  #3  
Registered User
 
1fast95Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Wichita, KS
Posts: 247
Yeah, that's a good question. I just replaced my compressor and was going to add freon but when I put the A/C in max cooling and hook the freon up to the low side, it doesn't seem like it is taking any. It is cold outside and I don't know if that make a difference or not. I do know there is a low pressure cutout. Some people have said to disconnect the battery for awhile, then reconnect it and try again. Personally, I've never gotten this to work.
1fast95Z is offline  
Old 01-26-2004, 07:10 PM
  #4  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
ChickenScreamer94's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Crossville, TN
Posts: 486
I was gonna just do plugs/wires in the driveway buy dont know if i can do it. I am afraid i am gonna F*** someting up andnot be able to start it again. IT just looks really tight in there.
ChickenScreamer94 is offline  
Old 01-26-2004, 07:36 PM
  #5  
Registered User
 
will62085's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Marietta, GA
Posts: 1,056
Originally posted by 1fast95Z
Yeah, that's a good question. I just replaced my compressor and was going to add freon but when I put the A/C in max cooling and hook the freon up to the low side, it doesn't seem like it is taking any. It is cold outside and I don't know if that make a difference or not. I do know there is a low pressure cutout. Some people have said to disconnect the battery for awhile, then reconnect it and try again. Personally, I've never gotten this to work.
you are supposed to get all the air vacumed out before you can add any r-134a (not freon anymore...) , this is just what i have been told, i dont know if it is possible to do or not without having it vacummed
will62085 is offline  
Old 01-26-2004, 08:23 PM
  #6  
Registered User
 
961le's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 128
true you should evacuate the air out of the system before adding refrigerant. if it is too cold out you can not properly charge the system due to low suction pressure.
961le is offline  
Old 01-26-2004, 08:27 PM
  #7  
Registered User
 
961le's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 128
but if you know how much refrigerant the system holds that could give you a good starting point until it warms up and you can trim the charge. the vacuum will also help pull in the refrigerant. by the way freon is a name brand by dupont. like clorox is to bleach.
961le is offline  
Old 01-26-2004, 08:40 PM
  #8  
Registered User
 
billy-94z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: north mississippi
Posts: 127
adding "freon" in cold weather

In order to get freon in you system it needs to be warm so the ambient air temp. swith will work. This can be simulated by putting the car in a warm shop overnight and let all parts of the car warm so when you try it again it "thinks" it is springtime

The mechanic is not really lying to you. When the system has been opened (replacement of compressor) a vacum needs to be pulled on the system to prevent premature failure down the road.

Also is using r 134a you only fill a r 12 system to about 70 or maybe 80 percent capacity. What i am saying is that you should not use as much 134 a as compared to r 12 to refill the system.

R 134 a operates at a higher pressure.

My brother is a referigerant technician so this is pretty accurate; to the best of my knowledge.
billy-94z28 is offline  
Old 01-27-2004, 06:02 AM
  #9  
Registered User
 
Mtrhds94Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Point Pleasant, NJ... USA
Posts: 1,955
Capacity is 2 lbs of R134a..
Mtrhds94Z is offline  
Old 01-27-2004, 08:15 AM
  #10  
Registered User
 
Smokin94Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Ga
Posts: 8
We do A/C jobs all year round at work(Firestone), unless temps drop below 50. First DO NOT put r12 into a r143 system, your asking for trouble. Second you need to pull a vacuum on the system to make sure there's no leak and to get rid of moiseture along with air. Third let car run for at least 30 mins to warm car and parts. To guage if your system is taking r134 use a thermometer in a vent to see if a/c is starting cool or not. Most auto a/c can cool down into the high 30/low 40s. Most f-bods I've seen only cool down to around 42-44.

If your doing this yourself with the small cans, try putting the can in a bowl of hot water to keep the can from freezing.

Oh yeah put the a/c on defrost so the compressor will kick on.
Smokin94Z is offline  
Old 01-27-2004, 08:16 AM
  #11  
Registered User
 
1fast95Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Wichita, KS
Posts: 247
Actually I found out that vacuuming the system out is to remove excess moisture as freon combined with water creates an acid which would eat your lines from the inside out. I was able to add freon to my a/c last night by simply putting the can in a small pot of warm water and it filled up rather quickly.
1fast95Z is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
RUENUF
South Atlantic
4
03-13-2016 03:39 PM
HarleyZ28
Cars For Sale
1
10-05-2015 06:23 AM
MadMav
Parts For Sale
9
05-25-2015 09:35 PM
alphaauto
Parts For Sale
2
01-23-2015 07:42 AM
94Z28LS1toLT1
LT1 Based Engine Tech
32
01-10-2015 10:27 AM



Quick Reply: My mechanic wont fill my a/c comp since it is us under 70*?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:00 AM.