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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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Question Maximum safe C.R. LT1 on pump gas

California 91 octane to be exact.

I know LT1s can better handle compression due to the reverse flow cooling... But is the factory C.R. pretty much all you can run without risking detonation? If not, how much compression can you run and still have a little bit of wiggle room -to be safe?
Old Jun 13, 2006 | 02:11 PM
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Re: Maximum safe C.R. LT1 on pump gas

Originally Posted by kick Z tail out
California 91 octane to be exact.

I know LT1s can better handle compression due to the reverse flow cooling... But is the factory C.R. pretty much all you can run without risking detonation? If not, how much compression can you run and still have a little bit of wiggle room -to be safe?

Just as long as you DCR is below 9.0:1 you should be fine.
Old Jun 13, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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It has to do with a lot of things.... where is Valle Vista in Ca? What are you planning to build?

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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 02:45 PM
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I'm running a CR close to 12:1 and I run on 93 octane without any problems. I don't know how else to help except to give a comparison.
Old Jun 13, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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It has to do with a lot of things.... where is Valle Vista in Ca? What are you planning to build?

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Head/cam 383 is what I've been planning on, although I haven't rulled out a 355.

Valle Vista is in the SoCal desert about 20 miles west of Palm Springs.
Old Jun 13, 2006 | 10:45 PM
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So it's still hot there?
Old Jun 13, 2006 | 11:49 PM
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A big radiator(3 core) and Evans coolant ya could get away with 8.8-9.0-1 DCR.
I talked to a guy in Vegas that is running 9.6-1 on the street in an Impy on pump gas,but I ain't that brave.
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 02:10 AM
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Summer can reach highs of 105-108 degrees on the hottest days... In winter, usually 60-70 degrees.

But yeah, it's pretty hot here in the summer months.
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 06:59 AM
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Sorry for asking or jacking the thread, but what does DCR stand for?
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 07:25 AM
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Re: Maximum safe C.R. LT1 on pump gas

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Sorry for asking or jacking the thread, but what does DCR stand for?
I felt like asking, so no worries. I'm imagining/guessing it may stand for Dynamic Compression Ratio? At least from the context of what they're saying it must be the compression ratio when all factors are considered.

Of course that's all a guess so we'll see what it really means when they reply
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 01:32 PM
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Yes that's what it stands for. Do a search on that to learn some more.

I would actually cut the DCR back to at the most 8.5:1 where you are, and probably put it around 8.3:1.

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Old Jun 14, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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Yes that's what it stands for. Do a search on that to learn some more.

I would actually cut the DCR back to at the most 8.5:1 where you are, and probably put it around 8.3:1.

Bret
Sweet... I guessed what the D stood for.


So what DCR do you think (guessing) my stock motor is getting in this climate? You're saying I wouldn't be able to bump it up a little?
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IF YA GOT COOLING ya can have it at 8.5+ but ya better have the cooling system jam up and jelly tight.
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Originally Posted by 1racerdude
jam up and jelly tight.
I'll have to remember that one.
Old Jun 14, 2006 | 02:36 PM
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How much cooling do you need? Especially in a hot climate. I was shooting for 8.7 dcr with rp purple ice and cowl hood and around 20% coolant (the rest distilled water) and a 160* thermostat.

Is the above considered to be enough to run a dcr that high?



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