LS1/ZO6 MAF sensor
LS1/ZO6 MAF sensor
Back when I was here regularly some people were starting to use these sensors as replacements for the stock LT1s when they went bad.
Well, after blowing mine out from a nitrous backfire
I am looking for a replacement.
Except I can't find a place that sells them with the LT1 harness. I already have the table conversion values to use with TunerCat from someone on the board.
Where can I find this sensor and conversion harness?
Well, after blowing mine out from a nitrous backfire
I am looking for a replacement.Except I can't find a place that sells them with the LT1 harness. I already have the table conversion values to use with TunerCat from someone on the board.
Where can I find this sensor and conversion harness?
Re: LS1/ZO6 MAF sensor
Originally Posted by JSK333
Back when I was here regularly some people were starting to use these sensors as replacements for the stock LT1s when they went bad.
Well, after blowing mine out from a nitrous backfire
I am looking for a replacement.
Except I can't find a place that sells them with the LT1 harness. I already have the table conversion values to use with TunerCat from someone on the board.
Where can I find this sensor and conversion harness?
Well, after blowing mine out from a nitrous backfire
I am looking for a replacement.Except I can't find a place that sells them with the LT1 harness. I already have the table conversion values to use with TunerCat from someone on the board.
Where can I find this sensor and conversion harness?
Re: LS1/ZO6 MAF sensor
I'm running the Factory ZO6 MAF on my car, it requires a pigtail from Ramchargers.com, and a change to your PCM program to run the GM unit. Run it for over 3 years with no problems.
The LS1speed/grantenelli unit is supossedly calibrated for use on the LT1 engines, but I'm not sure about these units.
The LS1speed/grantenelli unit is supossedly calibrated for use on the LT1 engines, but I'm not sure about these units.
Re: LS1/ZO6 MAF sensor
Originally Posted by 97FormulaWS-6
I'm running the Factory ZO6 MAF on my car, it requires a pigtail from Ramchargers.com
The pigtail you have to call/email ramchargers for since its not online. It was 18 bucks when i bought it.
I bought the z06 MAF from jason cromer, it was ~$130.
Only downside to the MAF is that on an lt1 computer it runs out of table at 330(somewhere in there) cfm. OBD1 computers will resort to VE tables after that, OBD2 stuff you need the most current definition file from lt1 edit and then you can change the MAF fail point code.
Re: LS1/ZO6 MAF sensor
Originally Posted by atljar
Ditto.
The pigtail you have to call/email ramchargers for since its not online. It was 18 bucks when i bought it.
I bought the z06 MAF from jason cromer, it was ~$130.
Only downside to the MAF is that on an lt1 computer it runs out of table at 330(somewhere in there) cfm. OBD1 computers will resort to VE tables after that, OBD2 stuff you need the most current definition file from lt1 edit and then you can change the MAF fail point code.
The pigtail you have to call/email ramchargers for since its not online. It was 18 bucks when i bought it.
I bought the z06 MAF from jason cromer, it was ~$130.
Only downside to the MAF is that on an lt1 computer it runs out of table at 330(somewhere in there) cfm. OBD1 computers will resort to VE tables after that, OBD2 stuff you need the most current definition file from lt1 edit and then you can change the MAF fail point code.
Thanks for the replies so far!
Re: LS1/ZO6 MAF sensor
Lt1 tables only have the hertz input values 1488hrtz to 11216 hrtz. The Zo6 maf puts out 750 to 12000 hrtz. So when you scale the zo6 table, at 11216hertz its only 355gm/s.
Also i mis-typed above, its gm/s, not CFM.
Also i mis-typed above, its gm/s, not CFM.
Re: LS1/ZO6 MAF sensor
On the Impala board it was recently reported that Dal is selling the f-body MAFS for about $130 it is a sale so I can not say wether it will still be that cheap but why deal with making the wrong part work when you can get the right one for the same price and have it read to a higher GPS.
Re: LS1/ZO6 MAF sensor
Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
On the Impala board it was recently reported that Dal is selling the f-body MAFS for about $130 it is a sale so I can not say wether it will still be that cheap but why deal with making the wrong part work when you can get the right one for the same price and have it read to a higher GPS.
Re: LS1/ZO6 MAF sensor
Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
On the Impala board it was recently reported that Dal is selling the f-body MAFS for about $130 it is a sale so I can not say wether it will still be that cheap but why deal with making the wrong part work when you can get the right one for the same price and have it read to a higher GPS.
How many of you B body guys are running the F body maf? No different here, we are just going from 3.5 to 4 inch, instead of 3 to 3.5.
Re: LS1/ZO6 MAF sensor
Correct many b-body guys run the f-body MAF it is easy to tune for and can communicate well with the pcm FAR above what the ZO6 sensor does. The ZO6 sensor starts sending info the pcm can not understand long before it's extra size is usable. Reread that last sentence, yeah it is beyond the pcms ability to read it before the stock sensor would have become a restriction. Meaning the only benifit it holds is price and like I said Dal has the stocker on sale negating that benifit the ZO6 HAD.
A lot of what goes on on these boards is people defending the mistakes they made, we could all get a lot further if we could admit imperfection. I tried the ZO6 MAF and several different tables all supposed to be right for it, I could not get it to work right and later learned about it's frequency complications when combined with the LT1 pcm. I was man enough to say I screwed up and sold it to a guy putting a 6.0L truck engine in a hotrod.
Even if you get this to work right it still can not work properly with the stock cpm to a level where the size is needed which means the stocker is better.
A lot of what goes on on these boards is people defending the mistakes they made, we could all get a lot further if we could admit imperfection. I tried the ZO6 MAF and several different tables all supposed to be right for it, I could not get it to work right and later learned about it's frequency complications when combined with the LT1 pcm. I was man enough to say I screwed up and sold it to a guy putting a 6.0L truck engine in a hotrod.
Even if you get this to work right it still can not work properly with the stock cpm to a level where the size is needed which means the stocker is better.
Re: LS1/ZO6 MAF sensor
Could not disagree with you more.
The Zo6 MAF is far more accurate than the lt1 sensors. Since the hertz output is stretched, there are more readings in gm/s for the same given frequency range. This means more precise fuel control at all levels until 355 gm/s.
As for maxing out the lt1 PCM at 355 gm/s, it really is a non issue. You will NEVER hit that just crusing around in closed loop, unless maybe your car is heavily boosted. In that case you would have maxed the stock unit anyways.
After 355 gm/s means you will be running at WOT throttle. Preprogrammed fuel curve at that point anyways as it reverts into open loop operation.
Anyways sounds like you tried to program for it and werent able to and now have a sour taste about the whole idea? All you have to do is scale the ls6 program MAF table to fit the lt1 stuff.
It works perfectly for me and many others who have done it. Just because a stock MAF will read higher than the output of the zo6, doesnt mean that the lt1 isnt a restriction. Thats the most invalid point you have made so far.
The Zo6 MAF is far more accurate than the lt1 sensors. Since the hertz output is stretched, there are more readings in gm/s for the same given frequency range. This means more precise fuel control at all levels until 355 gm/s.
As for maxing out the lt1 PCM at 355 gm/s, it really is a non issue. You will NEVER hit that just crusing around in closed loop, unless maybe your car is heavily boosted. In that case you would have maxed the stock unit anyways.
After 355 gm/s means you will be running at WOT throttle. Preprogrammed fuel curve at that point anyways as it reverts into open loop operation.
Anyways sounds like you tried to program for it and werent able to and now have a sour taste about the whole idea? All you have to do is scale the ls6 program MAF table to fit the lt1 stuff.
It works perfectly for me and many others who have done it. Just because a stock MAF will read higher than the output of the zo6, doesnt mean that the lt1 isnt a restriction. Thats the most invalid point you have made so far.
Last edited by atljar; Apr 19, 2005 at 11:56 PM.
Re: LS1/ZO6 MAF sensor
Heres the scaled values (thanks to whoever originally posted them)
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Z06 PCM 750 800 850 900 950 1000 1050 1100 1150 1200 1250 1300 1350 1400 1450 1500 1625 1750 1875 2000 2125 2250 2375 2500 2625 2750 2875 3000 3125 3250 3375 3500 3625 3750 3875 4000 4125 4250 4375 4500 4625 4750 4875 5000 5125 5250 5375 5500 5625 5750 5875 6000 6125 6250 6375 6500 6625 6750 6875 7000 7125 7250 7375 7500 7625 7750 7875 8000 8125 8250 8375 8500 8625 8750 8875 9000 9125 9250 9375 9500 9625 9750 9875 10000 10125 10250 10375 10500 10625 10750 10875 11000 11125 11250 11375 11500 11625 11750 11875 12000
> Flow 0.39 0.41 0.44 0.46 0.48 0.5 0.52 0.54 0.56 0.58 0.6 0.62 0.64 0.66 0.68 1.42 1.76 2.1 2.48 2.86 3.26 3.7 4.18 4.71 5.31 5.97 6.68 7.43 8.23 9.08 9.97 10.91 11.93 13.05 14.27 15.59 16.98 18.47 20.05 21.72 23.48 25.34 27.28 29.34 31.48 33.74 36.11 38.62 41.3 44.17 47.2 50.4 53.77 57.3 61.01 64.88 68.91 73.12 77.47 81.97 86.63 91.45 96.43 101.59 106.9 112.36 118.01 123.83 129.84 136.05 142.48 149.13 155.98 163.06 170.38 177.92 185.7 193.73 201.99 210.52 219.3 228.34 237.64 247.23 257.06 267.16 277.56 288.25 299.25 310.55 322.2 334.16 346.49 359.16 372.22 385.66 399.51 413.77 428.45 443.6
> Gm/sec
LT1 PCM 1488 1616 1744 1872 2000 2128 2256 2384 2512 2640 2768 2896 3024 3152 3280 3408 3536 3664 3792 3920 4048 4176 4304 4432 4560 4688 4816 4944 5072 5200 5328 5456 5584 5712 5840 5968 6096 6224 6352 6480 6608 6736 6864 6992 7120 7248 7376 7504 7632 7760 7888 8016 8144 8272 8400 8528 8656 8784 8912 9040 9168 9296 9424 9552 9680 9808 9936 10064 10192 10320 10448 10576 10704 10832 10960 11088 11216
1.27 1.74 2.08 2.47 2.86 3.27 3.72 4.22 4.76 5.39 6.07 6.80 7.58 8.41 9.29 10.21 11.20 12.27 13.45 14.73 16.12 17.58 19.14 20.80 22.55 24.41 26.35 28.41 30.56 32.82 35.20 37.72 40.40 43.28 46.33 49.56 52.97 56.55 60.32 64.25 68.35 72.64 77.08 81.68 86.44 91.37 96.47 101.76 107.20 112.81 118.61 124.59 130.77 137.17 143.79 150.65 157.71 165.03 172.59 180.38 188.43 196.74 205.30 214.14 223.25 232.62 242.29 252.23 262.44 272.95 283.77 294.90 306.35 318.16 330.29 342.80 355.68
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Z06 PCM 750 800 850 900 950 1000 1050 1100 1150 1200 1250 1300 1350 1400 1450 1500 1625 1750 1875 2000 2125 2250 2375 2500 2625 2750 2875 3000 3125 3250 3375 3500 3625 3750 3875 4000 4125 4250 4375 4500 4625 4750 4875 5000 5125 5250 5375 5500 5625 5750 5875 6000 6125 6250 6375 6500 6625 6750 6875 7000 7125 7250 7375 7500 7625 7750 7875 8000 8125 8250 8375 8500 8625 8750 8875 9000 9125 9250 9375 9500 9625 9750 9875 10000 10125 10250 10375 10500 10625 10750 10875 11000 11125 11250 11375 11500 11625 11750 11875 12000
> Flow 0.39 0.41 0.44 0.46 0.48 0.5 0.52 0.54 0.56 0.58 0.6 0.62 0.64 0.66 0.68 1.42 1.76 2.1 2.48 2.86 3.26 3.7 4.18 4.71 5.31 5.97 6.68 7.43 8.23 9.08 9.97 10.91 11.93 13.05 14.27 15.59 16.98 18.47 20.05 21.72 23.48 25.34 27.28 29.34 31.48 33.74 36.11 38.62 41.3 44.17 47.2 50.4 53.77 57.3 61.01 64.88 68.91 73.12 77.47 81.97 86.63 91.45 96.43 101.59 106.9 112.36 118.01 123.83 129.84 136.05 142.48 149.13 155.98 163.06 170.38 177.92 185.7 193.73 201.99 210.52 219.3 228.34 237.64 247.23 257.06 267.16 277.56 288.25 299.25 310.55 322.2 334.16 346.49 359.16 372.22 385.66 399.51 413.77 428.45 443.6
> Gm/sec
LT1 PCM 1488 1616 1744 1872 2000 2128 2256 2384 2512 2640 2768 2896 3024 3152 3280 3408 3536 3664 3792 3920 4048 4176 4304 4432 4560 4688 4816 4944 5072 5200 5328 5456 5584 5712 5840 5968 6096 6224 6352 6480 6608 6736 6864 6992 7120 7248 7376 7504 7632 7760 7888 8016 8144 8272 8400 8528 8656 8784 8912 9040 9168 9296 9424 9552 9680 9808 9936 10064 10192 10320 10448 10576 10704 10832 10960 11088 11216
1.27 1.74 2.08 2.47 2.86 3.27 3.72 4.22 4.76 5.39 6.07 6.80 7.58 8.41 9.29 10.21 11.20 12.27 13.45 14.73 16.12 17.58 19.14 20.80 22.55 24.41 26.35 28.41 30.56 32.82 35.20 37.72 40.40 43.28 46.33 49.56 52.97 56.55 60.32 64.25 68.35 72.64 77.08 81.68 86.44 91.37 96.47 101.76 107.20 112.81 118.61 124.59 130.77 137.17 143.79 150.65 157.71 165.03 172.59 180.38 188.43 196.74 205.30 214.14 223.25 232.62 242.29 252.23 262.44 272.95 283.77 294.90 306.35 318.16 330.29 342.80 355.68
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