lloyd elliot packages sound clips
Originally posted by 95firechicken
thats nice, i also want to see a dyno shet of hjis packages. i am curious on how the torque curve looks, and how much torque his packages put out.
thats nice, i also want to see a dyno shet of hjis packages. i am curious on how the torque curve looks, and how much torque his packages put out.
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good numbers, but i am trying to find someone with one of his ackages that has a dyno sheet. i am really intersted and would like to take a look at one, plus i want to hear how his cams sound.
I just did Lloyd heads and a Joe Overton cam. I dont know what kinda numbers im gunna make yet cuz I just started it tonight but I know it sounds damn good. Ill be getting some dyno numbers here within a couple weeks and ill let everyone know how that turns out.
I'm running Lloyd's LE3 heads and a really small cam that he offers(~220/226) and with a base tune it put down 384rwhp/363rwtq through a stalled auto. Tq would've been higher but the local shop didn't start the dyno run until 4,000rpms. I ran 12.12 at 111.11 with the base tune from pcmforless here in Kansas with no track prep. After a second tune from pcmforless I ran 11.84 at 114.7, so obviously I picked up a good amount of power. I'm postive its over 400rwhp now, and the tq curve is flat as can be. Not bad for a smalled cammed, stock bottem end automatic. BTW, I'm running a stock muffler and with a high idle you can't really hear it lope, and I did this because I wanted a sleeper. Also, highway I get 20-22mpg and city I get 16-17mpg, and thats with 3.73's.
sounds nice!
I have his bigger LE2 cam waiting to go in with fully breathed on heads with larger valves..
Mid to the end of may is the timeline now with a trip to the dyno to tune it by someone who knows what they are doing..
I will post vids, clips and numbers etc. when I get it up and running...
I have his bigger LE2 cam waiting to go in with fully breathed on heads with larger valves..
Mid to the end of may is the timeline now with a trip to the dyno to tune it by someone who knows what they are doing..
I will post vids, clips and numbers etc. when I get it up and running...
I actually got the heads before the cam..
I had him do a set of heads with bigger valves, dbl springs, 7/16th studs, and guideplates...
I became a bit of an email buddy to him so he told me about the cams and I picked up an LE2 as well..
Unfortunately the whole setup has been sitting for about four months now.. but this month is the month!
I do have to say giving the quality of the head work and the excellent cam grinder it is worth the $$..
I have a friend that will host the clips etc.. when I get it all together and tuned..
I had him do a set of heads with bigger valves, dbl springs, 7/16th studs, and guideplates...
I became a bit of an email buddy to him so he told me about the cams and I picked up an LE2 as well..
Unfortunately the whole setup has been sitting for about four months now.. but this month is the month!
I do have to say giving the quality of the head work and the excellent cam grinder it is worth the $$..
I have a friend that will host the clips etc.. when I get it all together and tuned..
Below is a basic run down on the packages.
The best package will depend on HP goals, budget, rear gears, stall size, future plans, emissions, driving style, etc., etc,
A phone call would be best to make sure that we can talk through these things and get a package that will work like you are wanting it to and also make sure that you have the complimenting parts to make each set up work.
The 2 cars that are running the LE2 heads and cam package have all of the mods, good tuning, etc. and made 409 RWHP (A4) and 415 RWHP (M6).
I have 6 others waiting top be assembled and dyno #'s will slowly come in on them. I have 1 LE1 cam and heads package in a car and it made 399 RWHP with an A4, stall, 3.42's, LT's etc.
He ran 11.60's at 117 MPH but the car WORKS and the 60 ft (1.66) has A LOT to do with the E.T. The MPH shows that the car is making power though. This kinda performance was AMAZING (E.T. MPH and Dyno #'s) and I and not sure if this is what everyone with this set up can expect or if just has it tuned PERFECT. Either way, it is a good idea of what the combination CAN do with the right stuff.
I offer cam and head packager from $1100 to $1700 depending on driving style, emissions, RPM range, budget, etc.
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LE1 cam pulls from 1900 to 6100 RPM and should make 370-390 RWHP with matching heads, 30 lb injectors, 52 TB, 1 3/4 LTs, No cats, good tuning, etc.
The heads are ported using stock valves, performance valve job, back cut valves, CM 612 springs, retainers and locks, milling, cleaning and assembly.
These heads flow about 255/180 with a 195 cc intake port and stock LT1's flow about 215/150 with a 170 cc intake port.
Heads and cam are $1100 (plus shipping) and will pass emissions with good tuning.
This has the RPM range of the Hot Cam or CC 305 cam but makes more HP and TQ through out the entire RPM range.
This will work with any gear and converter but the track times will be better with a stall and some gear.
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LE2 cam pulls from 2200 to 6400 RPM and should make 400-420 RWHP with matching heads, 30-36 lb injectors, 52-58 mm TB, 1 3/4 LT's, no cats, GOOD tuning, etc.
The heads are ported and machined for larger Ferrea 2.00/1.56 valves, Comp 987 dbl springs, TITANIUM 10 degree retainers, locks, locators, milling, cleaning and assembly.
These will flow about 270/190 with a 205 cc intake port.
Heads and cam are $1600 (plus shipping) and will need GOOD tuning. This has the RPM range of the CC 306 cam but will make more HP and TQ at peak and across the board. The REAL difference will be the LE2 cam will make TQ in the 2500 RPM range and the cc 306 doesn't start until way past this. It will make more HP than the cc 306 at ALL RPM's.
LE3 cam pulls from 2600 to 6800 RPM in a 350 (2300 to 6500 RPM in a 383) and should
make 410 to 430 RWHP with matching heads, 36-42 lb injectors, 58 TB or mono blade, GOOD tuning, etc, etc, etc.
These are the same heads from above but with Comp 977 springs instead of the 987's.
These are stronger and will also need Comp R lifters to handle the spring pressure.
Heads and cam are $1700 (plus shipping) and will need GOOD tuning. This cam is similar to the GM 847 cam but makes about 10 more HP at peak and starts making HP sooner. Makes more HP and TQ across the board. Needs gear and converter to work well in a 350. Pretty much a racing cam for the 350 or a good street cam that will act like the LE2 in a 383.
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Everyone has a different opinion about what is streetable and what a safe RPM limit is for their engine.
I would suggest a DYNO TUNE to make sure everything is optimized but the 3 people mentioned in this e-mail have mail order tunes and are doing pretty well.
They might get more with a DYNO TUNE though. A DYNO TUNE is pretty expensive and tough to find some one that can do it as well. This is why most get a mail order tune from MADWOLF or PCM FOR LESS. Both can be found on CamaroZ28.com.
The best package will depend on HP goals, budget, rear gears, stall size, future plans, emissions, driving style, etc., etc,
A phone call would be best to make sure that we can talk through these things and get a package that will work like you are wanting it to and also make sure that you have the complimenting parts to make each set up work.
The 2 cars that are running the LE2 heads and cam package have all of the mods, good tuning, etc. and made 409 RWHP (A4) and 415 RWHP (M6).
I have 6 others waiting top be assembled and dyno #'s will slowly come in on them. I have 1 LE1 cam and heads package in a car and it made 399 RWHP with an A4, stall, 3.42's, LT's etc.
He ran 11.60's at 117 MPH but the car WORKS and the 60 ft (1.66) has A LOT to do with the E.T. The MPH shows that the car is making power though. This kinda performance was AMAZING (E.T. MPH and Dyno #'s) and I and not sure if this is what everyone with this set up can expect or if just has it tuned PERFECT. Either way, it is a good idea of what the combination CAN do with the right stuff.
I offer cam and head packager from $1100 to $1700 depending on driving style, emissions, RPM range, budget, etc.
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LE1 cam pulls from 1900 to 6100 RPM and should make 370-390 RWHP with matching heads, 30 lb injectors, 52 TB, 1 3/4 LTs, No cats, good tuning, etc.
The heads are ported using stock valves, performance valve job, back cut valves, CM 612 springs, retainers and locks, milling, cleaning and assembly.
These heads flow about 255/180 with a 195 cc intake port and stock LT1's flow about 215/150 with a 170 cc intake port.
Heads and cam are $1100 (plus shipping) and will pass emissions with good tuning.
This has the RPM range of the Hot Cam or CC 305 cam but makes more HP and TQ through out the entire RPM range.
This will work with any gear and converter but the track times will be better with a stall and some gear.
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LE2 cam pulls from 2200 to 6400 RPM and should make 400-420 RWHP with matching heads, 30-36 lb injectors, 52-58 mm TB, 1 3/4 LT's, no cats, GOOD tuning, etc.
The heads are ported and machined for larger Ferrea 2.00/1.56 valves, Comp 987 dbl springs, TITANIUM 10 degree retainers, locks, locators, milling, cleaning and assembly.
These will flow about 270/190 with a 205 cc intake port.
Heads and cam are $1600 (plus shipping) and will need GOOD tuning. This has the RPM range of the CC 306 cam but will make more HP and TQ at peak and across the board. The REAL difference will be the LE2 cam will make TQ in the 2500 RPM range and the cc 306 doesn't start until way past this. It will make more HP than the cc 306 at ALL RPM's.
LE3 cam pulls from 2600 to 6800 RPM in a 350 (2300 to 6500 RPM in a 383) and should
make 410 to 430 RWHP with matching heads, 36-42 lb injectors, 58 TB or mono blade, GOOD tuning, etc, etc, etc.
These are the same heads from above but with Comp 977 springs instead of the 987's.
These are stronger and will also need Comp R lifters to handle the spring pressure.
Heads and cam are $1700 (plus shipping) and will need GOOD tuning. This cam is similar to the GM 847 cam but makes about 10 more HP at peak and starts making HP sooner. Makes more HP and TQ across the board. Needs gear and converter to work well in a 350. Pretty much a racing cam for the 350 or a good street cam that will act like the LE2 in a 383.
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Everyone has a different opinion about what is streetable and what a safe RPM limit is for their engine.
I would suggest a DYNO TUNE to make sure everything is optimized but the 3 people mentioned in this e-mail have mail order tunes and are doing pretty well.
They might get more with a DYNO TUNE though. A DYNO TUNE is pretty expensive and tough to find some one that can do it as well. This is why most get a mail order tune from MADWOLF or PCM FOR LESS. Both can be found on CamaroZ28.com.


