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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 02:57 AM
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did you give stock heads to lloyd or did you give him heads that already had some work on them? Its just not possible for an le2 package to beat a hotcam by only 30hp, there must be some explanation.

Maybe that gasket really is covering too much of the port? If you ever find out whats causing it, even if its like a year from now, pleeease reply to this thread and let us know. Sorry i couldnt help you more.
Old Jul 25, 2006 | 07:13 AM
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Your a/f is too high. Like I said in a previous post, it needs to be around 12.6-12.8. Did he leave your car with the last tune that you made that last dyno pull with? Honestly, the one before it was the best and your torque number isn't right on the last one because of the spike. What did he do different from the 2nd to last to the last one? Did you lose the power because he added timing? It looks to me like it may need some more timing down low and less fuel all around and you'll get better numbers. What was the overall timing at WOT? Did you figure out what was wrong?
Old Jul 25, 2006 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by med_reject
Its just not possible for an le2 package to beat a hotcam by only 30hp,
It's possible the LE stuff is more hype than anything. Even the high RWHP stups are slow in the MPH trap. I am looking for a CH kit for my 94 TA a4, looks like I should keep looking. 30 more HP than a hot cam sounds like a crap deal.
Old Jul 25, 2006 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by fast94
It's possible the LE stuff is more HyPe than anything.
It's a lot of something, but I think you have a few too many letters
Old Jul 25, 2006 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by fast94
It's possible the LE stuff is more hype than anything. Even the high RWHP stups are slow in the MPH trap. I am looking for a CH kit for my 94 TA a4, looks like I should keep looking. 30 more HP than a hot cam sounds like a crap deal.
You're going to open a can of worms.
Old Jul 25, 2006 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by James Montigny
It's a lot of something, but I think you have a few too many letters
I have been lookn' at your posts about the CH kit. How did your car dyno?
Old Jul 25, 2006 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by fast94
I have been lookn' at your posts about the CH kit. How did your car dyno?
Haven't sat on the dyno yet, I'm fine tuning the PCM first.
(I just got the car back Sunday just before midnight)
She'll roast the tires into 3rd on dry pavement (without brakes) if that helps any.
I'll post some vids in the video section later this week when I get a chance.
The local dyno is first-come first serve on Saturday mornings, if I don't make it think week I will for sure by next.
Old Jul 25, 2006 | 09:19 AM
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I doubt if you will find many people that believe my stuff is HYPE, LOL. If you do a search, you can find alot of people that have much better results than the ones listed here and have less complimenting parts than listed here.

I guess you read alot on here and never post since you only have 2 posts. You might have a different agenda and are posting this under the "fast94" screen name as opposed to your usual screen name. Eh, who knows, could be either one.

Most that do not hit the 400 RWHP mark with my heads/cam will send a dyno graph and mods list and you can easily se why the #'s are not there. The graph on this set up doesn't show any real problems that you would find on these cars though. The graph looks fine other than the #'s being low. The TQ #'s are actually in the 330 RWHP range and the 354 RWTYQ #'s are a spike like mentioned so something is definitely not right.

This guy has all the right parts and I can't figure why the #'s are low.

There is something a miss but I am not sure what it is or hwo to find it.
Old Jul 25, 2006 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by NightTrain66
...posting this under the "fast94" screen name as opposed to your usual screen name.
That thought crossed my mind the first time I read his name.

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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 10:59 AM
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Re: LE2 lives

Originally Posted by fast94
It's possible the LE stuff is more hype than anything. Even the high RWHP stups are slow in the MPH trap. I am looking for a CH kit for my 94 TA a4, looks like I should keep looking. 30 more HP than a hot cam sounds like a crap deal.
Yes, I am having problems with my #'s. Theat doesn't mean the package isn't good. Look at how many people have great #'s. I'll keep checking to see what my problem is. Lloyd has been great and is willing to help me out any way he can. It may take awhile, but I'll let everyone know what I find.
And yes, these were stock heads when I sent them to Lloyd. Don't let my #'s scare you away from him. I'm sure we will figure it out.
Old Jul 25, 2006 | 03:35 PM
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it is possible the tuner had the wrong gear/rear ratio input in his program. They calculate the speed of the wheel using those ratio and rpms and use that to calculate the horsepower.

When I had 360rwhp with a gm847, i could not break rubber 4.11s in second gear on street tires let alone third.
Old Jul 26, 2006 | 09:19 AM
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I had spoke with Tima nd he mentioned although it is faster than it was, it doesn't really feel like 400 RWHP either so I am gonna assume the dyno is correct or at least close. Most A4/stall set ups can have some "jasked up" dyno results but the 6 speeds are usually very close.

You can usually see a problem like HP #'s going flat at 5500 RPM, dip in HP/TQ curve, A/F WAY off, very squigly lines on graph, etc, etc, but this guy.

A few more things to checl will be the AFG's and see what # they are shopwing. If it is right at 400, your heads, cam, intake, TB, etc are moving enough air to make 390-410 RWHP. You just have to figure out why it is not.

does the car use any oil now?

I would do a compression check, leakdown like mentioned earlier and recomrd the data. If compression is on 1 or a few cylinders, find out why. If they are low on all, find out why. See if it is leaking through the rings or valve job.

Inspect all plugs and make they are burning correctly with no oil on them.

I have seen injectors cross wired (cylinders 1/3, 5/7, 2/4, 6/8 swapped) do weird things.

man, just so much stuff to check and ALOT of ways to lose HP.
Old Jul 26, 2006 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by fast94
It's possible the LE stuff is more hype than anything. Even the high RWHP stups are slow in the MPH trap.
That’s the weakest **** that I’ve seen around here in a long time. Seriously, dude…new profile, first post…
Old Jul 26, 2006 | 09:40 PM
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Well, I haven't done a compression check yet, but I'm pretty sure I have a major shortblock problem. We started the car tonight and let it run for a few minutes. Then we took the temp of the header primaries and cylinder #8 was showing about 150-200 degrees cooler than the rest. This find along with the knocking pretty much assures me there is a big problem. If that cylinder isn't firing properly, I guess that would explain the dyno being so low. I don't know a lot about the way things work, but I also was thinking that could be why I was losing power when the tuner was adding fuel. It wasn't buring properly. It wasn't knocking when we dynoed the car, but maybe pushing it to 6500rpm a few times finally made the problem noticeable.
I would like to thank Lloyd for trying to help me and he has been great the whole time dealing with him.
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