Just got my first runs in at the track!
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From: Cincinnati, Ohio
Originally posted by AlexBarabas
Sounds like ricer excuses to me.
Sounds like ricer excuses to me.
I'm sure the fact that our track which has a density altitude of 2800 some feet has nothing to do with it. I hate dumb people.
You do realize that there are mathmatical equations which figure the gains in ETs and traps which take into account humidity, temperature, and elevation. I didnt come up with the numbers outta my ***.
Last edited by atljar; Mar 23, 2003 at 05:45 PM.
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From: Cuyahoga Falls, OHIO
Originally posted by AlexBarabas
I'll post something when I bring my car to the track -- hopefully soon. However, I will not try to estimate adjustments or anything like that... I'll run what I'll run and if it's bad, it'll either be because I'm a ****-poor driver and/or because my car is a slow piece of crap. Only consistent benchmark I've had so far is that...from 0 to about 100, I beat a near-stock 2001 Lightning by a carlength.
I'll post something when I bring my car to the track -- hopefully soon. However, I will not try to estimate adjustments or anything like that... I'll run what I'll run and if it's bad, it'll either be because I'm a ****-poor driver and/or because my car is a slow piece of crap. Only consistent benchmark I've had so far is that...from 0 to about 100, I beat a near-stock 2001 Lightning by a carlength.
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From: Birmingham, Al
Originally posted by mkent
I have yet to see an M6 or an A4 run a sub-14second time yet with just cat-back and cai. I seen 14.7's from one kid the day i was in columbus, but that was an A4. another guy with a stock car was running 14.6's with an m6. i ran a best of 14.38 at 98mph on a 2.12 60'....granted, i'm not the quickets shifter around but still...
i seen brand new LS1 camaro SS's running 13.9's at 103mph stock in cool air.
i'm not calling you all liars, i suppose you guys running 13's with stock cars might be at better tracks or on Nittos but i refuse to believe the "average" m6 LT1 should be running a 13.9 at 102mph until i see it happen. from what i've seen 14.2-14.4 seems to be the average for stock lt1's on street radials and factory weight.
...although i do believe my 97 A4 with crappy 2.73's will run a 14.10 at 99mph...
but we'll see when i finally get to take it to the track in april.
I have yet to see an M6 or an A4 run a sub-14second time yet with just cat-back and cai. I seen 14.7's from one kid the day i was in columbus, but that was an A4. another guy with a stock car was running 14.6's with an m6. i ran a best of 14.38 at 98mph on a 2.12 60'....granted, i'm not the quickets shifter around but still...
i seen brand new LS1 camaro SS's running 13.9's at 103mph stock in cool air.
i'm not calling you all liars, i suppose you guys running 13's with stock cars might be at better tracks or on Nittos but i refuse to believe the "average" m6 LT1 should be running a 13.9 at 102mph until i see it happen. from what i've seen 14.2-14.4 seems to be the average for stock lt1's on street radials and factory weight.
...although i do believe my 97 A4 with crappy 2.73's will run a 14.10 at 99mph...
but we'll see when i finally get to take it to the track in april.
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From: Roseville, MI, USA
Alot of you guys ran faster than I in stock form. so Be happy! 
Granted my 60' times arent the greatest (2.0) but i should be faster than a 13.91 with the things ive done.
Be happy with what you got and since you trap speeds do look a little on the low side why dont you change the plugs, wires, and coil. they can do worlds on our cars.
good luck.
Granted my 60' times arent the greatest (2.0) but i should be faster than a 13.91 with the things ive done.
Be happy with what you got and since you trap speeds do look a little on the low side why dont you change the plugs, wires, and coil. they can do worlds on our cars.
good luck.
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From: Melbourne, FL, USA
Originally posted by atljar
I'm sure the fact that our track which has a density altitude of 2800 some feet has nothing to do with it. I hate dumb people.
You do realize that there are mathmatical equations which figure the gains in ETs and traps which take into account humidity, temperature, and elevation. I didnt come up with the numbers outta my ***.
I'm sure the fact that our track which has a density altitude of 2800 some feet has nothing to do with it. I hate dumb people.
You do realize that there are mathmatical equations which figure the gains in ETs and traps which take into account humidity, temperature, and elevation. I didnt come up with the numbers outta my ***.
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From: Cincinnati, Ohio
I didnt feel it necessary to post all the details. I was just stating the air quality has a bunch to do with the time slips. I never said i dont believe a CAI/cat back car can go mid 13s. I said around here it doesnt happen because of the air.
Ever notice how some states have abnormally fast cars? Its because of the awesome air.
Low elevation, high pressure, and no humidity are ideal. Mix that with a cool night and you have awesome drag weather.
Move that same car up here with 60% humidity, low 29.XX barameter, heat, and a 900 foot track you get poor results.
Combining temperature, humidity, pressure, and elevation you can come up with "density altitude". Even though our track is only 900 feet up, on that paticular day it acted as a 2800 foot track with the conditions.
Using density altitude you can come up with corrrected numbers, which is what i gave.
Maybe before you make smart *** remarks you think before typing.
Ever notice how some states have abnormally fast cars? Its because of the awesome air.
Low elevation, high pressure, and no humidity are ideal. Mix that with a cool night and you have awesome drag weather.
Move that same car up here with 60% humidity, low 29.XX barameter, heat, and a 900 foot track you get poor results.
Combining temperature, humidity, pressure, and elevation you can come up with "density altitude". Even though our track is only 900 feet up, on that paticular day it acted as a 2800 foot track with the conditions.
Using density altitude you can come up with corrrected numbers, which is what i gave.
Maybe before you make smart *** remarks you think before typing.
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From: Columbus, Ohio
Originally posted by mkent
I have yet to see an M6 or an A4 run a sub-14second time yet with just cat-back and cai. I seen 14.7's from one kid the day i was in columbus, but that was an A4. another guy with a stock car was running 14.6's with an m6. i ran a best of 14.38 at 98mph on a 2.12 60'....granted, i'm not the quickets shifter around but still...
i seen brand new LS1 camaro SS's running 13.9's at 103mph stock in cool air.
i'm not calling you all liars, i suppose you guys running 13's with stock cars might be at better tracks or on Nittos but i refuse to believe the "average" m6 LT1 should be running a 13.9 at 102mph until i see it happen. from what i've seen 14.2-14.4 seems to be the average for stock lt1's on street radials and factory weight.
I have yet to see an M6 or an A4 run a sub-14second time yet with just cat-back and cai. I seen 14.7's from one kid the day i was in columbus, but that was an A4. another guy with a stock car was running 14.6's with an m6. i ran a best of 14.38 at 98mph on a 2.12 60'....granted, i'm not the quickets shifter around but still...
i seen brand new LS1 camaro SS's running 13.9's at 103mph stock in cool air.
i'm not calling you all liars, i suppose you guys running 13's with stock cars might be at better tracks or on Nittos but i refuse to believe the "average" m6 LT1 should be running a 13.9 at 102mph until i see it happen. from what i've seen 14.2-14.4 seems to be the average for stock lt1's on street radials and factory weight.
His traps do seem low for a M6, odd.
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Originally posted by AlexBarabas
I looked up at some of the posts and noticed words such as "barameter" and what-not. Here's a tip... go to school.
I looked up at some of the posts and noticed words such as "barameter" and what-not. Here's a tip... go to school.
