HP Diff. between the mild cams?
HP Diff. between the mild cams?
Does any one know what the HP difference would be between a Hot cam, CC 305, XE 218/224, XE 224/230 or any other cam in this range? I'm looking to get the most HP I can [ Is'nt everyone] and still pass the Ill. smog laws.
This is with a good set of Lt1 heads and a smog tune, If I have to, example XE 224/230. But if it is'nt at least 20 HP the Hot cam wins.
Any input, solid or otherwise would be a help.
This is with a good set of Lt1 heads and a smog tune, If I have to, example XE 224/230. But if it is'nt at least 20 HP the Hot cam wins.
Any input, solid or otherwise would be a help.
I would wager that the CC502 (218/224) would make very similar power to the Hotcam, yet would run cleaner. I assume you'll be running 1.6 ratio rockers, so that will add a couple degrees duration to your cam (about 220/226), with the Hotcam being 218/228 with 1.6 rockers. BTW, look at my sig and I have the CC502 and it's nice; can't wait to get it dynoed.
onebadponcho -- I'm curious about the CC XE 218/224/112 performance as well. Did you lose any bottom end compared to stock? How does the car pull in the 1000-1500 rpm range compared to stock? Any loss of drivability at all with that cam?
RichJ,
How do you like your XE 224/230 on the 114. Do you have to smog it, and can it pass? I'm trying to figure out what the biggest cam is I can use and still pass Ill. emmisions. The question has been asked many times but I'm not sure if it can pass.
How do you like your XE 224/230 on the 114. Do you have to smog it, and can it pass? I'm trying to figure out what the biggest cam is I can use and still pass Ill. emmisions. The question has been asked many times but I'm not sure if it can pass.
Originally posted by Z-RATED94
RichJ,
How do you like your XE 224/230 on the 114. Do you have to smog it, and can it pass? I'm trying to figure out what the biggest cam is I can use and still pass Ill. emmisions. The question has been asked many times but I'm not sure if it can pass.
RichJ,
How do you like your XE 224/230 on the 114. Do you have to smog it, and can it pass? I'm trying to figure out what the biggest cam is I can use and still pass Ill. emmisions. The question has been asked many times but I'm not sure if it can pass.
I like the cam okay. It's sort of big enough to lose a little drivability but not big enough to make big power. I'm actually thinking of swapping it out for something a little smaller, knowing that I'll lose some top end but also knowing that it will be better to drive on the street. I'd like to be able to cruise at 1200 rpm or so comfortably and this cam doesn't have any guts down there.
RichJ,
Thanks for your help. But I have to ask, why are you at 1200 RPM with a six speed? I though the 224/230 made good power down low. So if you dropped down a couple of gears, does'nt it make good power? Maybe smaller is better?
Rick
Thanks for your help. But I have to ask, why are you at 1200 RPM with a six speed? I though the 224/230 made good power down low. So if you dropped down a couple of gears, does'nt it make good power? Maybe smaller is better?
Rick
Originally posted by Z-RATED94
RichJ,
Thanks for your help. But I have to ask, why are you at 1200 RPM with a six speed? I though the 224/230 made good power down low. So if you dropped down a couple of gears, does'nt it make good power? Maybe smaller is better?
Rick
RichJ,
Thanks for your help. But I have to ask, why are you at 1200 RPM with a six speed? I though the 224/230 made good power down low. So if you dropped down a couple of gears, does'nt it make good power? Maybe smaller is better?
Rick
Well, I'm kind of "long gone" right now (gotta love the military), so no track times or dyno #s yet.
Obviously, you lose some driveability compared to the stock cam, where the car will actually pull smoothly in 6th gear from a fast idle. I'm still on a stock tune and there's some cam surge, but at about 1500-2000rpm, it smooths out pretty well.
I've revved it to 6300rpm a couple times; it seemed to pull pretty much all the way there. How high I rev it at the track will depend on what it does on the dyno, though.
I still get over 27mpg on the highway, and with a tune I think that will improve also. Regardless of what this thing puts down on the dyno/track, I really like this cam. It drives really nice-sounds good too.
Obviously, you lose some driveability compared to the stock cam, where the car will actually pull smoothly in 6th gear from a fast idle. I'm still on a stock tune and there's some cam surge, but at about 1500-2000rpm, it smooths out pretty well.
I've revved it to 6300rpm a couple times; it seemed to pull pretty much all the way there. How high I rev it at the track will depend on what it does on the dyno, though.
I still get over 27mpg on the highway, and with a tune I think that will improve also. Regardless of what this thing puts down on the dyno/track, I really like this cam. It drives really nice-sounds good too.
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