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How to finally seal my intake manifold?

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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 11:51 AM
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I used the Right Stuff and did the divots and no leaks after a year.
Old Feb 18, 2004 | 04:11 PM
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all you have to do is plug the ports w/ paper towels and put a garbage bag over the lifter valley its fine. never had a problem. to each his own.
Old Feb 19, 2004 | 07:26 AM
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all you have to do is plug the ports w/ paper towels and put a garbage bag over the lifter valley its fine. never had a problem. to each his own.
Using scotchbrite is utterly un-necessary and is overkill for any kind of clean up work on the inside of an engine. It is a bad idea all around. The scotchbrite pads damage the engine components because they are way too agressive and they spray fine abrasive particles all over the engine.

Info - Use of Surface Conditioning Disks #00-06-01-012 - (05/04/2000)
Use of "Surface Conditioning Disks"


This bulletin is being revised to change the model years and the status of molded bristle disks. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 87-61-24 (Section 6 -- Engine).

The Use of "Surface Conditioning Disks"
When cleaning engine gasket sealing surfaces, and/or cleaning parts from an engine which are to be reused; surface conditioning disks (typically constructed of woven fiber or molded bristles) which contain abrasives, such as a high amount of Aluminum Oxide, are NOT recommended.

The use of such surface conditioning discs dislodges Aluminum Oxide (from the disk) and metal particles, which can lead to premature engine bearing failure.

The presence of Aluminum Oxide in engine oil has been shown to cause premature engine bearing failure. In some cases, this failure occurs in as little as 1,000 miles (2,200 km) or less after the repair has been made.

Surface conditioning discs may grind the component material and imbed it into the disc. This can result when more aggressive grinding of the gasket surface takes place.


Notice
Do not use abrasive pad/bristle devices to clean the gasket surfaces of engine components. Abrasive pads should not be used for the following reasons:

Abrasive pads will produce fine grit that the oil filter will not be able to remove from the oil. THIS GRIT IS ABRASIVE AND HAS BEEN KNOWN TO CAUSE INTERNAL ENGINE DAMAGE. Abrasive pads can easily remove enough material to round cylinder head surfaces. This has been known to affect the gasket's ability to seal, especially in the narrow seal areas between the combustion chambers and coolant jackets.
Abrasive pads can also remove enough metal to affect cylinder head, block, oil pan rail, and intake manifold runner flatness, which can cause coolant and oil leaks. It takes about 15 seconds to remove 0.203 mm (0.008 in) of metal with an abrasive pad.

Recommended Cleaning Procedure
General Motors recommends the use of a razor blade or plastic gasket scraper to clean the gasket surface on engine components that are to be reused. When cleaning gasket surfaces, please note the following:

When using a razor blade type gasket scraper, use a new razor blade for each cylinder head and corresponding block surface. Hold the blade as parallel to the gasket surface as possible. This will ensure that the razor blade does not gouge or scratch the gasket surfaces.
Do not gouge or scrape the combustion chamber surfaces.
Do not gouge or scratch any engine-sealing surface during the cleaning process.

Important
The appearance of the gasket surface is not critical -- the feel is. There will be indentations from the gasket left in the cylinder head after all the gasket material is removed. The new gasket will fill these small indentations when it is installed.
And there you have it.. If it wasn't a problem GM wouldn't have wasted thousands of dollars publishing a bulletin on it.
Old Feb 19, 2004 | 07:50 AM
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Old Mar 18, 2004 | 11:13 PM
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I've done a number of LT1 intakes and once when I was placing the manifold I noticed what could be your problem. I didn't remove the bottom tray from the manifold and didn't completely clean it of oil. Yes, I cleaned the edges and such however I didn't completely clean the whole thing. After I just sat the manifold down I noticed slight oil film on the rtv after it 'squished' down. I pulled it off, and re did everything. What happened was while I was hold the manifold from the throttle opening at one point the oil started to run/drip from the center area and subsequently got to the mating surface. I didn't notice until I sat it down on the engine. The RTV won't seal once contaminated with oil.
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