How can I avoid spinning a bearing with the new motor?
Re: How can I avoid spinning a bearing with the new motor?
Originally Posted by BUBBA
Not sure what NASCARs use, but I've decided to go back to dyno oil. It may break down faster than a synthetic, but if I change it regularly, since any oil is going to get dirty, I will feel a little more confident. Don't know why, just going with the old tried and true stuff (and it's cheaper) JMHO 

but there is a big difference between m1 and redline. m1 is a mineral base stock.
its to thin because its a 10 weight, i wouldnt run a 10 weight more then about 6K rpms with stock sbc rod/main journal sized.
Re: How can I avoid spinning a bearing with the new motor?
Well, I've been using Mobil 1 5w-30 ever since I changed from the Quaker State synthetics that came with the SS from SLP. Since I'm running a 160 stat and not running hot, I doubt that I would have to fret about cooking the dyno oil.
The C 5s recommended using the Mobil 1 syns from the factory; don;t know what flavor they recommend now.
I assumed when I got my SS with the synthetics that it was a big deal and would add performance. Now I don't exactly know why. I am sure that most will disagree with my assessment, but spinning a bearing with less than 7 grand on the tach and you start to look at alot of things a little differently.
The C 5s recommended using the Mobil 1 syns from the factory; don;t know what flavor they recommend now.
I assumed when I got my SS with the synthetics that it was a big deal and would add performance. Now I don't exactly know why. I am sure that most will disagree with my assessment, but spinning a bearing with less than 7 grand on the tach and you start to look at alot of things a little differently.
Re: How can I avoid spinning a bearing with the new motor?
i got less than 500 miles on it when mine took a crap. Since this is the first i've heard about a 10w being too thin, i'm starting to think this could be the problem. So should you go with some thing like a 15w30 or higher like a 20w50? 20w50 seems too thick in my opinion, but what is everybody else doing?
Re: How can I avoid spinning a bearing with the new motor?
i run castrol or valvoline non synth 20w50 in mine, its significantly thicker when hot then a 5w30, but its still like water at operating temp. they all thin out when hot. after the head/cam install im gonna step up to SAE 30.
the m1 used to be a synth base stock, but they changed it a few years back.
if i were gonna run a synth id run either redline or royal purple.
if its $5/qt and made of a mineral base stock, its a waste of $$$ IMO. and i change my oil so often it doesnt matter.
the m1 used to be a synth base stock, but they changed it a few years back.
if i were gonna run a synth id run either redline or royal purple.
if its $5/qt and made of a mineral base stock, its a waste of $$$ IMO. and i change my oil so often it doesnt matter.
Re: How can I avoid spinning a bearing with the new motor?
mobile 1 5w30 is too thin. at least thats what ive gathered from a lot of reading. the 30 weight rating should be more of a 20 weight rating. therefor, you are really running more of a 20 weight oil in your high performance vehicle and not giving it the protection it should have. i would recommend mobile 1's new 5w40 rated oil. that should give you a lower startup viscosity than the 15w50 and also better protection during operating temperature. this viscosity will also flow better at the operating temperature than that of the 15w50 as well. this problem has only been identified with mobile 1 oils that i am aware of.
Last edited by slverbullet; Apr 13, 2005 at 06:06 PM.
Re: How can I avoid spinning a bearing with the new motor?
Originally Posted by slverbullet
mobile 1 5w30 is too thin. at least thats what ive gathered from a lot of reading. the 30 weight rating should be more of a 20 weight rating. therefor, you are really running more of a 20 weight oil in your high performance vehicle and not giving it the protection it should have. i would recommend mobile 1's new 5w40 rated oil. that should give you a lower startup viscosity than the 15w50 and also better protection during operating temperature. this viscosity will also flow better at the operating temperature than that of the 15w50 as well. this problem has only been identified with mobile 1 oils that i am aware of.
a 5w mineral base is a 5w mineral base. it doesnt get thicker. the second number has to do with hot viscosity, but not like most people think. a 5w30 is a 5 weight that only thins as much as a 30 weight at operating temp. it thins, i assure you. my 20w50 is like water at operating temp down here. and ive had people who dont know better say running 20w50 is like running gear oil. i guess a lot of people dont look at their oil when the engine is hot or just dont know what gear oil looks like.
you have to pick the oil weight (first number) based on the ambient temp as well as the powerband. here in tx, especially south tx in the summer, i wouldnt hesitate to use an SAE 30. id run thinner in the spring/fall, but even here in north texas i use a 10w30 in the winter only. when we lived in north idaho when i was a kid we used 5w30s in the winter. it depends on the temp.
if i were racing the car in the winter id use a thicker (20w50 or SAE 30) and use a block heater.
Last edited by 93turbo5oh; Apr 13, 2005 at 06:33 PM.
Re: How can I avoid spinning a bearing with the new motor?
Originally Posted by 1-bad-z28
No offense taken but i am an experienced builder. After it happened to me i was wondering if maybe i did do something wrong. I started asking a bunch of questions on here and fbody and any other resource i had. The conclusion that i came to is it happens to about half of the people that do it. Maybe you guys just got lucky or had a lot of low mileage motors. I don't know.
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