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Harmonic Balancer??

Old Mar 11, 2004 | 10:46 PM
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Harmonic Balancer??

Are there any secrets to getting this thing off? I took out the three bolts and I am using a crows foot puller on it and I cannot get the thing to come off. I already broke one puller and the second one is about to break. I have no idea what is going on. I even tried tapping it with a hammer every so often and still nothing.

Any secrets or anything? I think I am gonna go back out there and soak it in PB Blaster and try it again in the morning to see if that helps at all.

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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 11:02 PM
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This question is asked about every other day (or more often ).

The hub looks like this, so you have to use something down the middle where the crank bolt was to push against. Otherwise you are just trying to tear the hub and tool apart. Some people back the crank bolt out some and use that, but there is a danger of messing up the threads. A hardened rod down in the bolt hole would be better. Some have also used a ¼" extension, but don't get it jammed in the hole.
Old Mar 11, 2004 | 11:41 PM
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So, the best thing to do is back out the crank bolt and then stick something else in there and then use the crows foot to push against whatever I stuck in the hole?

That won't damage the threads for the crank bolt at all?
Old Mar 11, 2004 | 11:52 PM
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No, it won't damage the threads, and it's better than using the crank bolt. Trust me, I screwed up my bolt when I tried that, but I don't think that I messed up the threads inside the crank. Hoping I didn't anyway.

Edit I meant using a hardened rod wouldn't hurt the threads, using the stock crank bolt will most likely ruin the bolt and/or the threads in the crank.

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Old Mar 11, 2004 | 11:53 PM
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So, the best thing to do is back out the crank bolt and then stick something else in there and then use the crows foot to push against whatever I stuck in the hole?

That won't damage the threads for the crank bolt at all?
My reply above states there is a risk damaging the threads by doing that. It does not say that is the best thing to do. The best thing is the proper hub removal tool made for the job.
Old Mar 11, 2004 | 11:59 PM
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Ok, so if I stick something small in the hole where the crank bolt was, does that mean that the hub and pulley come off together?
Old Mar 12, 2004 | 12:02 AM
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Ok, so if I stick something small in the hole where the crank bolt was, does that mean that the hub and pulley come off together?
You can do it that way or you can take them apart separately. If you only need the pulley off, there is no need to pull the hub.
Old Mar 12, 2004 | 12:05 AM
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I am doing a cam swap so I need both off. I guess I am just not understanding how the pulley can come off using that method without the hub coming with it, because the puller i am using threads in to, what I am assuming from the pic is the hub....
Old Mar 12, 2004 | 12:12 AM
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LT1's use a two piece hub/pulley. I can take my pulley off by removing the three bolts and wiggling it a little bit, others are not so lucky. If you wanted to just remove the pulley, you could use a claw type remover, but since you need to remove both, just use your threaded crow foot remover.
Old Mar 12, 2004 | 12:23 AM
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Next question.....are 1/4" extensions a lot stronger than a 1/4" bolt because I just bent the crap out of a small bolt that I think is quarter inch when I tried using that to pull off of....

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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 12:25 AM
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I used a bolt that was just small enough to slide past the threads without actually engaging them. It was about two sizes less than the crank bolt I guess.
Old Mar 12, 2004 | 01:28 AM
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This is definitely ridiculous, I went through three bolts. They just kept twisting, that sucker is really one there. I have no idea why it is on so tight or whatnot but I am running out of ideas to get it off....
Old Mar 12, 2004 | 02:00 AM
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I think your main problem is you're doing this at 3:00 am. Call it a night and get a fresh start in the morning or tomorrow afternoon.

BTW, you're not threading the bolt into the crank are you?
Old Mar 12, 2004 | 02:25 AM
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Nope, I definitely didn't thread into the hole at all because that would defeat the purpose....yea I gave up for the day so I am gonna finish lookin at it tomorrow, hopefully the PB blaster that I sprayed on it will help after sitting overnight....

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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 07:48 AM
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Here is how you can remove an early model pulley. The later model ones have threaded holes on the pulley where the puller claws are in my pic. You can use a regular balancer puller to remove that kind.

If you are using a crow foot (traditional balancer) puller and trying to get by using smaller diameter bolts passed through the threaded holes in the hub, you might be wasting your time. The hub can be extremely tight. The proper way to do it, is to use 7/16-14 bolts threaded into the hub. Old intermediate length head bolts work well. The problem is, a lot of pullers will not accomodate the larger bolts. You may need to modify the puller or get one that has large enough holes in it.

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