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Great header debate: Real Numbers on 1 5/8 vs 1 3/4 in Chevy HiPerformance

Old Feb 5, 2004 | 07:41 AM
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Great header debate: Real Numbers on 1 5/8 vs 1 3/4 in Chevy HiPerformance

Figured this would interest most. Just got my April Chevy HiPerformance in the mail. They have comparisons of all types of headers with hard numbers.....

1 1/2 Intermediate Flowtech
1 5/8 Long Tube Hooker
1 3/4 Long Tube Hooker
1 7/8 Long Tube Hooker

Didnt see it online yet on their site but then again the magazine just came out so it may be a couple of weeks.
Old Feb 5, 2004 | 09:18 AM
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So which size is better
Old Feb 5, 2004 | 09:30 AM
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What about it?
Care to elaborate a bit more?
-Goose
Old Feb 5, 2004 | 10:07 AM
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Give us the infooooo
Old Feb 5, 2004 | 10:10 AM
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yeah lets hear it...Do you have the webiste?
Old Feb 5, 2004 | 10:25 AM
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Maybe he works for them, and therefore is leading us on so we'll all go out and buy it.

<<<<<going out to buy it at lunch...
Old Feb 5, 2004 | 10:47 AM
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I'm in class now but heading back to work. I'll type up the comparison numbers for the 1 5/8 vs 1 3/4. However, there are charts comparing all to one another.
Old Feb 5, 2004 | 12:01 PM
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1 3/4 Longtube Hooker vs. 1 5/8 Hooker

Article says the real gains from the 1 3/4 would have been seen had the test been a naturally aspirated 7000 rpm engine

RPM TQ Diff HP Diff
3000 422 +7 241 +4
3100 423 +7 249 +4
3200 422 +5 257 +3
3300 422 +6 265 +3
3400 423 +6 274 +4
3500 425 +5 283 +3
3600 425 -2 295 +3
3700 437 +1 308 +1
3800 444 +1 321 +1
3900 448 -2 333 -1
4000 453 -3 345 -2
4100 458 -3 357 -3
4200 462 -4 369 -4
4300 465 -3 381 -2
4400 466 -2 390 -2
4500 467 +1 400 -0
4600 467 +1 409 -1
4700 464 +0 416 -1
4800 462 -1 422 -1
4900 459 +2 428 +2
5000 455 +3 433 +2
5100 450 +2 437 +2
5200 446 +3 441 +3
5300 441 +5 445 +5
5400 434 +5 446 +5
5500 427 +6 447 +6
5600 421 +7 449 +8
5700 411 +5 446 +6
5800 403 +6 445 +7
5900 393 +4 442 +5
6000 385 +5 440 +4
Old Feb 5, 2004 | 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by ticket_me_redz
1 3/4 Longtube Hooker vs. 1 5/8 Hooker

Article says the real gains from the 1 3/4 would have been seen had the test been a naturally aspirated 7000 rpm engine

RPM TQ Diff HP Diff
3000 422 +7 241 +4
3100 423 +7 249 +4
3200 422 +5 257 +3
3300 422 +6 265 +3
3400 423 +6 274 +4
3500 425 +5 283 +3
3600 425 -2 295 +3
3700 437 +1 308 +1
3800 444 +1 321 +1
3900 448 -2 333 -1
4000 453 -3 345 -2
4100 458 -3 357 -3
4200 462 -4 369 -4
4300 465 -3 381 -2
4400 466 -2 390 -2
4500 467 +1 400 -0
4600 467 +1 409 -1
4700 464 +0 416 -1
4800 462 -1 422 -1
4900 459 +2 428 +2
5000 455 +3 433 +2
5100 450 +2 437 +2
5200 446 +3 441 +3
5300 441 +5 445 +5
5400 434 +5 446 +5
5500 427 +6 447 +6
5600 421 +7 449 +8
5700 411 +5 446 +6
5800 403 +6 445 +7
5900 393 +4 442 +5
6000 385 +5 440 +4
I am a little lost here are they saying the 1 5/8 shorties out preformed the LT?
What car was this done on,a 350 LT1 F-body?
Or a cammed and head small block Chevy or what?
Please list any details you have.

Thanks,
Claude
Old Feb 9, 2004 | 03:51 PM
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Any more details on this?

thx,
Claude
Old Feb 9, 2004 | 03:57 PM
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Sorry for the delay. Article said it was a 383 crate motor. I think it was rated over 400 horse out of the box. The diff listed is what the 1 5/8 did compared to the 1 3/4.
Old Feb 9, 2004 | 04:10 PM
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I read it, and felt that it was very inconclusive.
Old Feb 9, 2004 | 04:21 PM
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They did a test on the HT 383 a while back with the 230/236 XE cam and airgap performer RPM and a demon 750. They started with regular 1 3/4 uncoated headers and moved to stepped 1 5/8s coated (torque step hedmans) and the difference was very minimal , they said the 1 5/8s out performed the bigger tubes. It was very biased.
Old Feb 9, 2004 | 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by WS Sick
they said the 1 5/8s out performed the bigger tubes. It was very biased.
It was biased because the smaller headers outperformed the larger primaries? Explain.

-Chris
Old Feb 9, 2004 | 06:03 PM
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I read the article too. It had a bunch of rambling in it, but never really said much. The 1 3/4 did make the most though. I'll get the articles up line in a min

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