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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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Gauging Interest in LT1 Shortblock GP

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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick@Victory Racing
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This is not an attemted flame by any means but...aren't you the guy that previously owned APE or whatever..that company that went bankrupt, the company that offered a GP on engines before, and never produced them in a timely manner? Like I said, this is not a flame or anything....but I have read multiple posts about you and it is not good things. I am rather asking for clarification whether that was you that I read about, and if you want to restore your name whats going to be different about this GP....how will customer service be changed? Tell us why someone should take the risk and utilize your services? If i am mistaken please correct me, and if the mods feel I am out of line for asking this then by all means they can delete it.

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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 89385formula
aren't you the guy that previously owned APE

I believe that is correct.
Old Jul 12, 2005 | 02:56 PM
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I did a search and found a few interesting articles......... http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showth...6&page=1&pp=20 ,
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...k+D%27Agostino,
http://www.fbody.com/cgi-bin/anythin...i?msgid=595217, hope noone else gets screwed.



I must say I have never had dealing with APE so this is all just hear-say to me BUT it's ALOT of hear-say.
Old Jul 12, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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I expected this would happen, and I want to make matters perfectly clear on this issue. I was an employee at APE (Automotive Performance Engineering), I had no stake in the company and was not the owner. APE had financial issues and closed their doors, in fact I am personally still owed over $4,000 in back wages.

That aside Victory Racing Engines is a company that I started with partner Eric. We have absolutely nothing to do with APE, we will not carry over any ill-perceived reputation of my former employer. We are a totally different and new shop, and my former employer has absolutely nothing to do with Victory Racing Engines.

I have personally been a member of this community for several years and have a lot to offer. I guarantee that if given the oppurtunity you will see that Victory Racing Engines is nothing like APE, and never will be. I hope that clears the air on this issue once and for all, so we can go forward.

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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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Remember people, sometimes we work where we may not want to, but we still have families to feed and bills to pay. Nick is a great guy, and to be perfectly honest, I am bringing him my personal motor this weekend for a full build up. You wanna whine about APE, at least pull your head out of your asses long enough to learn the truth and the entire situation. Nick worked there, just like you or I work somewhere. He just had the bad luck of working for a total dick with ears.
Old Jul 12, 2005 | 07:15 PM
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Well, I stand corrected. Thanks for the answer. I was in no way trying to start anything here, and from what I have heard from the people that bought the engines, and recieved them from APE that they were top of the line and very high quality workmanship. Like many others I have never dealt with APE or your new company....but I read here often, and when something strikes my mind I am sure others may question it as well....Thats why I asked! ONce again, thank you for your response and good luck with the new company.
Old Jul 12, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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i could be very interested in a budget 355 that won't ever see more than 420whp, unless nitrous was tossed on it for a quick pass.
Old Jul 12, 2005 | 08:15 PM
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i could be very interested in a budget 355 that won't ever see more than 420whp, unless nitrous was tossed on it for a quick pass.
Im with him ^^^^ but i want 450RWHP all motor
Old Jul 12, 2005 | 09:15 PM
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yeah, i woujld be ahpopy with just 400, like something that utilized a stock crank would be sweet, would certainly take the fear out of me about bringing it to someone around by me
Old Jul 12, 2005 | 11:34 PM
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Re: Gauging Interest in LT1 Shortblock GP

Originally Posted by dreamer1q
You wanna whine about APE, at least pull your head out of your asses long enough to learn the truth and the entire situation.
I don't see why you want to put it like that. I did a search on APE and Nu-Tek and I can understand why people have concerns.
Old Jul 13, 2005 | 01:42 AM
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Good requests thus far, keep em coming. The GP thread has a good amount of requests as well. So this will probably happen in the next day or two.

Stay Tuned.
Old Jul 13, 2005 | 08:13 AM
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Thank you for your kind words.


Originally Posted by 89385formula
Well, I stand corrected. Thanks for the answer. I was in no way trying to start anything here, and from what I have heard from the people that bought the engines, and recieved them from APE that they were top of the line and very high quality workmanship. Like many others I have never dealt with APE or your new company....but I read here often, and when something strikes my mind I am sure others may question it as well....Thats why I asked! ONce again, thank you for your response and good luck with the new company.
Old Jul 13, 2005 | 01:16 PM
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Just my two cents... This is mostly for Nick but I will post it here...

You guys ever notice that the companies that do GP's on shortblocks go out of bussiness? APE and Nutek to name a few. A performance engine is not something that you can cut corners on so if the prices are lower and the quality stays up all you are doing is lowering your $ per hour that you make, which in most of these GP instances is negative $ per hour. Like my old man says about places that do this "we loose a little on every sale but we make it up in volume", and that comes from a man who has been working in bussiness for almost 30 years and has seen it all.

A GP might be a quick way to get a lot of work in a short amount of time, which looks great now, but towards the end of the GP this doesn't look like it's as good of a deal for you. Engine bussiness are built on reputation and it takes a long time to do that.

Do GP's on parts if you want to slum out sales, but don't do it on your labor and hard work, customers will not be happy because they don't understand things take time #1 and #2 you will work yourself to the bone making less and less $$ per hour. I for one would never do a short/long block GP, my time is worth too much to **** off customers.

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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 03:39 PM
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Re: Gauging Interest in LT1 Shortblock GP

Bret you have a PM.



Originally Posted by SStrokerAce
Just my two cents... This is mostly for Nick but I will post it here...

You guys ever notice that the companies that do GP's on shortblocks go out of bussiness? APE and Nutek to name a few. A performance engine is not something that you can cut corners on so if the prices are lower and the quality stays up all you are doing is lowering your $ per hour that you make, which in most of these GP instances is negative $ per hour. Like my old man says about places that do this "we loose a little on every sale but we make it up in volume", and that comes from a man who has been working in bussiness for almost 30 years and has seen it all.

A GP might be a quick way to get a lot of work in a short amount of time, which looks great now, but towards the end of the GP this doesn't look like it's as good of a deal for you. Engine bussiness are built on reputation and it takes a long time to do that.

Do GP's on parts if you want to slum out sales, but don't do it on your labor and hard work, customers will not be happy because they don't understand things take time #1 and #2 you will work yourself to the bone making less and less $$ per hour. I for one would never do a short/long block GP, my time is worth too much to **** off customers.

Bret



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