Gasket Mixup Need help Soon!!
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Gasket Mixup Need help Soon!!
I hate to cross post forums but I'm needing help. I have been searching the internet all night and found nothing so far. I dd post this other places on the web, so if you see it you can just ignore (sorry)
I started installing my heads the other night, and started to question the gasket I chose (FP 9966 PT) when I noticed the coolant passage holes where so much smaller than those in the head and the block. I also noticed that the oil drain passages are slightly obstructed by gasket material. Additionally, Lloyd Elliot told me to use the thinner Impala gasket which is supposed to be .029 thk Impala/Caprice LT1 head gasket. The GM part No. is "GM PART # 12553160". I have confirmed the thickness of the GM gasket as a confirmed .029" thk.
However, my problem started when I decided to do a cross reference and buy the Fel-Pro brand (Fel-Pro part no. 9966 PT) instead of GM part. The gasket appears exactly the same physically, but I can't find any specs on the gasket, and I read on LS1/LT1 Tech that the Fel-Pro Impy Gasket was .049. and not .029 like I assumed it would be. That would really suck!
The other thing I noticed about these gaskets, is that most of the coolant holes in the gasket are very small relative to the large coolant passages in the head and block deck.
If you guys have a way to find out the thickness specs on the Fel-Pro 9966 PT Gasket I'd appreciate the help big time. I have one cylinder head already installed and torqued and really don't want to remove that head if I don't have to.
Also - any concerns with the Impala gasket which is meant to be used on iron heads, being used on aluminum heads? I also read from one respected forum member that there could be corrosion issues long term?
Thanks for any help - comments or suggestions
I started installing my heads the other night, and started to question the gasket I chose (FP 9966 PT) when I noticed the coolant passage holes where so much smaller than those in the head and the block. I also noticed that the oil drain passages are slightly obstructed by gasket material. Additionally, Lloyd Elliot told me to use the thinner Impala gasket which is supposed to be .029 thk Impala/Caprice LT1 head gasket. The GM part No. is "GM PART # 12553160". I have confirmed the thickness of the GM gasket as a confirmed .029" thk.
However, my problem started when I decided to do a cross reference and buy the Fel-Pro brand (Fel-Pro part no. 9966 PT) instead of GM part. The gasket appears exactly the same physically, but I can't find any specs on the gasket, and I read on LS1/LT1 Tech that the Fel-Pro Impy Gasket was .049. and not .029 like I assumed it would be. That would really suck!
The other thing I noticed about these gaskets, is that most of the coolant holes in the gasket are very small relative to the large coolant passages in the head and block deck.
If you guys have a way to find out the thickness specs on the Fel-Pro 9966 PT Gasket I'd appreciate the help big time. I have one cylinder head already installed and torqued and really don't want to remove that head if I don't have to.
Also - any concerns with the Impala gasket which is meant to be used on iron heads, being used on aluminum heads? I also read from one respected forum member that there could be corrosion issues long term?
Thanks for any help - comments or suggestions
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Thanks for the reply
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Ok - this confirms the thickness at .049 - now the 60million dollar question is who makes a good .029 gasket?
GM Impala Gaskets - do they have issues?
Fel-Pro makes the FP-1074 which is .039 but I don't see them making a .029 one.
GM Impala Gaskets - do they have issues?
Fel-Pro makes the FP-1074 which is .039 but I don't see them making a .029 one.
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FWIW, I installed this gasket on my car and got it back together 2 days ago. Have put ~150 miles on it thus far and haven't had a problem.
If you have one head already bolted on using the felpro gasket, I would just finish the job using that gasket. Going .02 smaller is not going to have any significant advantages (https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=569778)
Thomas.
Last edited by Stoopalini; 01-12-2008 at 10:40 AM.
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LT1, 4.100" bore, 5.4cc, .026" compressed thickness, "Nitroseal", part number Victor Reinz 5898
LT4, 4.120" bore, 10.4cc, .046" compressed thickness, "Nitroseal", part number Victor Reinz 5930.
They are listed for any and all "GEN II" motors so that's F/Y/B/D body and it's not iron head specific and there should be no issues using them for aluminum alloy heads. (as far as I know).
I don't know what parts store sell VR head gaskets and such because I get mine from wholesalers but I'm sure someone like Advanced Auto or NAPA would have them.
hth.
Karl Ellwein
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Thanks - very good information - "Vis_croceus" told me about the Reinz gaskets, but I wasn't sure where I could find them today. That'll be my next search
Mahle/Clevite/Victor Reinz (Mahle bought Clevite and VR and so that's the name of the company now) has the "GEN II" motor 92-97 listed thusly:
LT1, 4.100" bore, 5.4cc, .026" compressed thickness, "Nitroseal", part number Victor Reinz 5898
LT4, 4.120" bore, 10.4cc, .046" compressed thickness, "Nitroseal", part number Victor Reinz 5930.
They are listed for any and all "GEN II" motors so that's F/Y/B/D body and it's not iron head specific and there should be no issues using them for aluminum alloy heads. (as far as I know).
I don't know what parts store sell VR head gaskets and such because I get mine from wholesalers but I'm sure someone like Advanced Auto or NAPA would have them.
hth.
Karl Ellwein
LT1, 4.100" bore, 5.4cc, .026" compressed thickness, "Nitroseal", part number Victor Reinz 5898
LT4, 4.120" bore, 10.4cc, .046" compressed thickness, "Nitroseal", part number Victor Reinz 5930.
They are listed for any and all "GEN II" motors so that's F/Y/B/D body and it's not iron head specific and there should be no issues using them for aluminum alloy heads. (as far as I know).
I don't know what parts store sell VR head gaskets and such because I get mine from wholesalers but I'm sure someone like Advanced Auto or NAPA would have them.
hth.
Karl Ellwein
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I know Lloyd would not have given bad advice!! I just made an assumption I should not have made. I assumed that if you cross reference a GM part No. to a Fel-Pro, when then for God's sake the damn thing should be the same part! That's what pisses me off the most.
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Thanks to everyone that helped solve my mystery! Off to fix it.