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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 06:59 PM
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Re: Faulty Dyno? Bolt on LT1 335RWHP

Originally Posted by FastZinTennessee
There's no way with just bolt-ons it put that down. Either the dyno is off or the previous owner put a few things under the hood that you don't know about.
I did 327hp and 350 tq all bolt-on's. Thats a good running car if it is all bolt-on's. As far as i know i have the highest with lt1 castings, bolt-on. Another guy has a lt4 96 SS did like 332hp. Im not sure what Shon is all bolt-on's but im sure its on pace.

Congrats if the motor is that strong

do you have 1.7rr??
Old Jan 30, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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Re: Faulty Dyno? Bolt on LT1 335RWHP

Originally Posted by roadtrip120
I did 327hp and 350 tq all bolt-on's. Thats a good running car if it is all bolt-on's. As far as i know i have the highest with lt1 castings, bolt-on. Another guy has a lt4 96 SS did like 332hp. Im not sure what Shon is all bolt-on's but im sure its on pace.

Congrats if the motor is that strong

do you have 1.7rr??
!.6 rockers.

I was just asking what you guys thought, and I found out.

What I know is the car always dynoed very well, even stock.

When I bought the car totally stock I took it the dyno to know how much I would improve in the future. With a failing opti, horrible high rpm miss, clogged cats, failing fuel pump...it dynoed 265rwhp. (this is a different dyno)

So I can see how fixing everything and adding the mods I have done could wake it up the way it has shown.

But I will be going to the track this weekend and will update you guys on what it does.
Old Jan 30, 2006 | 06:49 PM
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Re: Faulty Dyno? Bolt on LT1 335RWHP

Everyone's flaming you b/c it seems you actually believe those BS #'s coming out of your car.

so I guess it is a pretty strong engine...can't wait till I get heads and cam.
You think your stock bottom end gives you more power than another stock bottom end? lol.....
Old Jan 30, 2006 | 06:51 PM
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Everyone's flaming you b/c it seems you actually believe those BS #'s coming out of your car.



You think your stock bottom end gives you more power than another stock bottom end? lol.....

I was referring to power...
Old Jan 30, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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Post the SAE numbers and then compare what your car dyno'd to the others on this board.
Old Jan 30, 2006 | 07:20 PM
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Re: Faulty Dyno? Bolt on LT1 335RWHP

Originally Posted by TA-Body
I have LT headers going to a open Y pipe with 1.6 rockers, and a cold air intake. New opti and all the free mods. (ported MAF, throttle body by pass, ect) with a pretty advanced timing tune.

this is what the car did on motor.
http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?i...nomotor4pk.jpg

People in the lounge are saying something must be off. I made 3 pulls with the same results each time. My 2 friends both dynoed and hit what they should of for their mods. (actually they were a little disappointed)

So what do you guys think, is that what the car has...or is something wrong with that dyno?
1.6 rr's and headers..sounds close to me.
Old Jan 30, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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It sounds about right if he had an LS1, or LT4. The numbers are high. But not impossible. My car almost hangs with a grand sport, from 0-100 im only off by about 2 to 3 car lengths, and he is a good driver. I get him half a car off the line then he pulls on me the rest of the way. So there are some stronger than others out there. So much of it is engine condition too. Dont forget, these are 10+ year old engines now. The chances of finding one in mint shape is pretty slim. I have one with 16,000 Origional miles, but how far and few between are they getting now. Even an LS1 car is hard to find with less than 20K on it

If its under great tune, perfect weather, and the dyno is off by even a percent of two, those numbers are possibly. Are they common, NO. But they do happen. Also, certain year LT1's had slightly different cam profiles. Not enough to be noticable, but it may be a 5-10 peak HP difference. Look up the stock cam specs, you'll find about 4 different LT1 cams. Vettes also had a slightly different cam. So whose to say GM didnt put those cams in some of the LT1 motors? Just cause they didnt announce it doesnt mean it didnt happen. I mean, look at the hardened pushrod bull ****. Or the 2-bolt versus 4-bolt mains. I personally, first hand, have seen an LT1 Vette motor, origional motor, from origional owner, have to change the oil pan, and find out their car has, from the factory, a 2-bolt main block. It does happen. Run all synthetic fluids in a motor, tranny, and rear end,there is another 1 or 2 he could have picked up. Dynoing it cold, another few HP. Anything is possible, he should try a different dyno on a similar day.
Old Jan 31, 2006 | 06:17 PM
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Cory's 96 TA has the following mods:

Summit 1.6 aluminum roller rockers NSA 7/16 studswith stock springs.(use to be on my 95TA before I went to pro mags)
The stock hardened pushrods and gm guideplates that use to to be in my 95TA.
The throttle body is stock with a coolant bypass mod. Stock water pump, and stock replacemnt crankpulley/balancer from Autozone.
He is using a deutch #BF412 filter on his passenger side valve cover due to oil heading to the throttle body.

The car has an SLP CAI that came off an 96ta after it got a ram air hood.

He is using the stock ignition with an msd blaster coil. He has stock replacement wires from Oreilly's Autoparts with Autolite 104 plugs which I gapped at .043

The headers are pacesetter uncoated 1 and 3/4 primaries using fel pro 1406 gaskets. I deleted the egr and air when I installed the headers. The cheap a$$ lt's flow through a 3 inch y-pipe, also from pacesetter which has one flotech 3" cutout, which corey usually leaves open. He dynoed it with it open.

I ported the MAf and descreened it. I also installed the 255lph intank fuel pump. The stock elbow is still there with the donkey d__k. The iac is still in the stock location.
The car has an lt4 knock module and an obdI pcm and obdI knock sensor.

It has the stock 10 bolt with 3.42's, I replaced the stock driveshaft with an ls1 aluminum shaft. The clutch kit is from spec, it is a kevlar/carbon hybrid. It also has spec lighter billet flywheel.

Corey has some c5 takeoff wheels wraspped in kumho rubber. with slp shocks in the rear and an edelbrock strut tower, hurst short throw shifter.

The car has a custom N.O.S. wet kit. which was off when he dynoed. After cory had finished his NA runs we decided to try a nitrous run, but since he didn't have a nitrous bottle heater the pressure was only at 600 psi.

The car was tuned by me using Tunercat.
Old Jan 31, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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Re: Faulty Dyno? Bolt on LT1 335RWHP

Originally Posted by TA-Body
When I bought the car totally stock I took it the dyno to know how much I would improve in the future. With a failing opti, horrible high rpm miss, clogged cats, failing fuel pump...it dynoed 265rwhp. (this is a different dyno)
There's no way something that you don't know about is not going on with that motor. Do you honestly believe that bone stock with all those problems it legitimately dyno'ed only 10 hp less at the wheels than it's rated at the flywheel?
Old Jan 31, 2006 | 07:16 PM
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In TA-Body's defence, All you people yelling about how he could actually believe these were his numbers are kind of ingoring a few things here:

a) He was there
b) He has a dyno of it
c) He was with other people who had normal dynos...

Finally, in his FIRST post he goes to say: "So what do you guys think, is that what the car has...or is something wrong with that dyno?"

So IF your going to start a flame war, at least post reasoning behind your thinking based on the circumstances. IE. If you think its the dyno, explain why the dyno seemed correct for his friends. If you think hes lying, go take a look at the dyno slip and explain why he would want to go on here and get flamed for it.

Like mostly everyone your 330ish peak HP seems a bit too high. There's gotta be some cam you don't know about in your car already ... or something for it to be that high... let us know how the track runs go without the bottle
Old Jan 31, 2006 | 07:53 PM
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Re: Faulty Dyno? Bolt on LT1 335RWHP

Originally Posted by FastZinTennessee
Do you honestly believe that bone stock with all those problems it legitimately dyno'ed only 10 hp less at the wheels than it's rated at the flywheel?
LOL, I guess Ls1's are the only GM motors allowed to do that.
Old Jan 31, 2006 | 07:58 PM
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Re: Faulty Dyno? Bolt on LT1 335RWHP

Originally Posted by rpm4lalo
LOL, I guess Ls1's are the only GM motors allowed to do that.
I don't even think an LS1 with a busted up ignition system, horrible high rpm miss, clogged cats and a failing fuel pump would do 265 rwhp if it were stock
Old Jan 31, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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You didn't dyno 335rwhp with those mods. I could see 315rwhp, but no more than that. I find it funny that you actually believe the numbers. I mean they aren't even believable! The dyno graph clearly states your numbers are STD and not SAE, that is probably the reason your numbers are so high. Did your car really only go 114mph on a 150 shot?
Old Jan 31, 2006 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by FastZinTennessee
I don't even think an LS1 with a busted up ignition system, horrible high rpm miss, clogged cats and a failing fuel pump would do 265 rwhp if it were stock

Actually Cory is being modest so the rest of the close minded lt1 folk don't feel inadequate, he actaully hit 266rwhp. but since you weren't actaully there , it must be impossible, right?
Old Jan 31, 2006 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by rpm4lalo
Actually Cory is being modest so the rest of the close minded lt1 folk don't feel inadequate, he actaully hit 266rwhp. but since you weren't actaully there , it must be impossible, right?
I don't believe the car put down 265 rwhp bone stock when it was only rated 275 hp at the flywheel and was admittedly having ignition and exhaust issues causing the car to pretty much s*** itself on the dyno, and that makes me closed minded? I have said from the beginning that I think there is internal work done that he doesn't know about, I'm not saying he's lying about putting down those numbers. That or something fishy going on with the dyno.



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