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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 06:29 PM
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Do I have a catback or muffler only exhaust system (pics inside)

Hey guys, I bought the car about a year ago from a dealer. The only modification was a MagnaFlow Exhaust system, but they didn't say whether or not it was a catback system or just the muffler. It sounds great regardless of what it is. It also came with "MagnaFlow Performance" exhaust tips. I took a couple pictures from underneath the car, so maybe you guys would be able to recongnize if it is the stock I-pipe or not. If it is just the muffler, are there any places which sell a larger I-pipe, or would I have to get something custom made? Is it correct that the MagnaFlow catback has a 3" pipe and stock is 2.5"? Thanks!

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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 06:32 PM
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It looks like a flowmaster cat-back system to me....
Old Sep 17, 2004 | 06:38 PM
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Looks like an 80 series muffler with stock pipes to me. I could be wrong though, bet is sounds good!
Old Sep 17, 2004 | 06:42 PM
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it kinda looks like the stock pipe coming back from the cat. i think the stock is 2.75 inch stainless steel.
Old Sep 17, 2004 | 06:47 PM
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Re: Do I have a catback or muffler only exhaust system (pics inside)

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Looks like an 80 series muffler with stock pipes to me. I could be wrong though, bet is sounds good!
Exactly, it's a Flowmaster 80 series muffler (definitely not Magnaflow) with what looks like stock piping using aftermarket tips...

I know people hate on this exhaust, but damn I love its tone on the LT1!

Mike
Old Sep 17, 2004 | 07:13 PM
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Thank you for the responses so far. I took a few more pictures and added them to my original post.

Are the Flowmaster 80 series mufflers not very loud on the LT1? The reason I ask is because this muffler is pretty quiet at idle, but it sounds deep and rumbly when you get on it. At WOT, it sounds like a jet engine taking off

My 91 Firebird (with the 3.1 engine) has the Flowmaster 80 series muffler w/ 2.5" I-pipe, but it sounds much louder, especially at idle.
Old Sep 17, 2004 | 07:29 PM
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I had an 80 series muffler on my last Z, for like a week, and it wasn't very loud at idle, and personally I don't think it was very loud at WOT either. I swithced over to a Hooker cat-back system and loved it.
Old Sep 17, 2004 | 08:17 PM
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the stock exhaust does not have mandrel bent tubing...this does has mandrel bent tubing ..., I could be wrong though as the pics don't go all the way to the cat.

Typically the aftermarket vendors making the cat-back systems benifits are gained from mandrel tubing with a higher flowing muffler....nothing else really all too special about them.
Old Sep 17, 2004 | 09:31 PM
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Stock piping, aftermarket muffler and tailpipes.
Old Sep 17, 2004 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JG94Z
the stock exhaust does not have mandrel bent tubing...this does has mandrel bent tubing ...,
WRONG! The stock tubing is mandrel bent. The intermediate pipe is 2.75" mandrel-bent 409 SS. From the side view, your intermediate pipe looks stock. The discoloration matches what I'd expect 409 to look like after some use.

The view isn't great, but it almost looks like the tailpipe is not stock. The muffler definitely looks like a Flowmaster.
Old Sep 17, 2004 | 11:26 PM
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Correct the stock exhaust is mandrel bent. I still have the stock system on my car (Not for long though ) and the pipes look almost identical to the ones in your pic before the muffler.
Old Sep 17, 2004 | 11:46 PM
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Why would people hate on this muffler? I think it sounds great, I am sure it probaly doesn't add more that 3-4 hp at the rear wheels but if we wanted our mufflers to be the power producer we would be driving Honda Civic's! Get rid of those cats and she will really come alive.
Old Sep 18, 2004 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ltlover
Why would people hate on this muffler? I think it sounds great, I am sure it probaly doesn't add more that 3-4 hp at the rear wheels but if we wanted our mufflers to be the power producer we would be driving Honda Civic's! Get rid of those cats and she will really come alive.
Wheres the "hate" in this thread? All sound like opinions from people who have had it and nothing really all that negative, just that it wasnt as loud as a hooker... Theres is another Flomaster bashing thread in LT1 tech though
Old Sep 18, 2004 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 2000LS1Z28
Exactly, it's a Flowmaster 80 series muffler (definitely not Magnaflow) with what looks like stock piping using aftermarket tips...

I know people hate on this exhaust, but damn I love its tone on the LT1!

Mike
Just so you know where the "hate" is TOBY
Old Sep 18, 2004 | 08:49 AM
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Yep that's a flowmaster. 3 or 3 1/2" pipe going into the muffler then out 2 1/2" tips. I can see it from my window here. I cut it off right before the muffler Sound exactly the same except much louder. Same sound and tone, low at idle, loud as hell at WOT, but you can hear back fires alot more. You'll also notice more of a top end gain. I didnt notice any low end loss.

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