LT1 Based Engine Tech 1993-1997 LT1/LT4 Engine Related

Changing 93 EMC to 94-95

Old Jun 14, 2005 | 07:30 AM
  #1  
Pampered-Z's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 787
From: Catawissa PA.
Changing 93 EMC to 94-95

What all would be involved to changing a 93 over to a 94-94 ECM? I currently have the vented opti mod done, but tuning with chips is a PITA! So other then a ECM and MAS what else do I need?

Will it require a complete harness to go from batch fire to sequential?
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 07:35 AM
  #2  
Alvin@pcmforless.com's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 1,614
From: Charlotte, NC
Re: Changing 93 EMC to 94-95

Its supposed to be a huge pain in the ***, why are you having so many problems tunign the 93? I'll be up in PA doing a dyno day in about a month or so.
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 08:20 AM
  #3  
shoebox's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 1969
Posts: 27,728
From: Little Rock, AR
Re: Changing 93 EMC to 94-95

IMO, changing the engine harness is the way you would want to do it.
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 08:37 AM
  #4  
justnrt's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 89
Re: Changing 93 EMC to 94-95

tuning a 93 is simple with tunercat, the $DA3 ecm file, starting bin (like BLDL), pocket programmer 2 with some atmel 256 chips and a scanner. ive been doing it since MAF iroc-z's so chip tuning and changing the memcal is all nomal to me now.
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 09:07 AM
  #5  
Pampered-Z's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 787
From: Catawissa PA.
Re: Changing 93 EMC to 94-95

I'm having lots of issues with injector pulse and the 2bar map under boost.

383 motor( 9:2 CR ), ATI SC with 15lb pulleys, 42lb injectors, AFPR, racetronixs 255GPH in tank pump. etc.

The troblem appears to be with the 2bar map? But having to constently pull the chip, burn it and reinstall it is a total pain.

Friend is actually doing the tuning (street tuning, not dyno W/wide band O2s).

Car is running real rich at low RPMs then goes way lean by 4000RPMs at 70% throttle and 3-4 lbs of boost.

We've been trying allot of different values for the injectors, timing etc. and nothing seems to be helping? Even moving the fuel pressure way up and turning the FMU all the way in doesn't seem to help any. But I really don't want to push the motor high into the RPM/boost with it already running lean.
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 09:48 AM
  #6  
madwolf's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 4,577
From: DeKalb, IL
Re: Changing 93 EMC to 94-95

You will need to work with the VE tables to get the fueling right.

To switch to a 94+ setup, if you have a manual, you will want a 94 M6 harness. They are hard to come by, but easiest for the swap.

There are two wires that need to be swapped around for your car to work. The wires are for fuel pump and serial data.

In addition to that, you will need to get heated o2 sensors and swap out the bottom plate of your throttle body with a 94+ one. Or you can cut the IAC connector off the 93 harness and swap it over to the 94 harness.

You will most likely need to convert to a 94-96 instrument cluster or just swap a 94-96 cluster circuit board into yours. (make sure if your cluster is 150mph, the 94-96 cluster is also 150mph if you're swapping boards only)
Some people say the 93 cluster will work, but I swapped mine anyway because I know a 94-96 cluster won't work on a 93. (93s have a tach filter in the harness so you normally have to remove it if swapping in a new cluster... or swap boards)

The swap will be harder with an automatic. You will either need a 4L60E, or you will need a different VSS. You might get it to work with some tuning though.

For what it's worth, I like both setups. I just hate that you can't calibrate the speedo on 93s through tuning. (at least not yet or not very accurate)
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 09:50 AM
  #7  
Alvin@pcmforless.com's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 1,614
From: Charlotte, NC
Re: Changing 93 EMC to 94-95

Originally Posted by Pampered-Z
I'm having lots of issues with injector pulse and the 2bar map under boost.

383 motor( 9:2 CR ), ATI SC with 15lb pulleys, 42lb injectors, AFPR, racetronixs 255GPH in tank pump. etc.

The troblem appears to be with the 2bar map? But having to constently pull the chip, burn it and reinstall it is a total pain.

Friend is actually doing the tuning (street tuning, not dyno W/wide band O2s).

Car is running real rich at low RPMs then goes way lean by 4000RPMs at 70% throttle and 3-4 lbs of boost.

We've been trying allot of different values for the injectors, timing etc. and nothing seems to be helping? Even moving the fuel pressure way up and turning the FMU all the way in doesn't seem to help any. But I really don't want to push the motor high into the RPM/boost with it already running lean.

You just need someone who knows what thier doing with the 2 bar speed density stuff. Also, 42's are probally going to fall pretty short with 15lbs. It should be a piece of cake to get the car driving really nicely though.
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 11:02 AM
  #8  
Pampered-Z's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 787
From: Catawissa PA.
Re: Changing 93 EMC to 94-95

Originally Posted by ROOSTER93V8
You just need someone who knows what thier doing with the 2 bar speed density stuff. Also, 42's are probally going to fall pretty short with 15lbs. It should be a piece of cake to get the car driving really nicely though.
Sorry, should have stated the SC. It's a P600B. On my 383 I don't expect it to be able to actually make boost into the double digits, 8-9 lbs maybe?
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
PFYC
Supporting Vendor Group Purchases and Sales
0
May 1, 2015 01:14 PM
Pig Pen
Parts Wanted
0
Apr 30, 2015 08:41 AM
InfernalVortex
LT1 Based Engine Tech
3
Jan 17, 2015 09:35 AM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:21 PM.