Car has 93k on it. H/C or just build a new motor?
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Car has 93k on it. H/C or just build a new motor?
Well I have been planning on just building a forged 355 or 383 for a while now, but the price is just insane.
So I am now thinking of just getting my heads ported, intake port matched & throwing in a cam and just run that till it goes. Maybe throw the 3500 stall and/or nitrous at it like I also have planned.
So should i just continue to sock the money away for a new motor or do H/C combo now?
I just don't wanna do H/C now and wish I had waited to just do the whole motor in a few months.
Car seems to run strong, rich, but strong.
It's a 95 Z28 A4
So I am now thinking of just getting my heads ported, intake port matched & throwing in a cam and just run that till it goes. Maybe throw the 3500 stall and/or nitrous at it like I also have planned.
So should i just continue to sock the money away for a new motor or do H/C combo now?
I just don't wanna do H/C now and wish I had waited to just do the whole motor in a few months.
Car seems to run strong, rich, but strong.
It's a 95 Z28 A4
Last edited by SloMofo; May 15, 2003 at 01:49 PM.
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port the heads and put the hot cam kit in there, you wont be sorry, my car pulls like a raped ape with 103,XXX on the clock. take good care of the motor you have and she will last you for another 100,000 miles. 
P.S. Zpaul2fresh8 is a lying, minipulating, scammer!!!
P.S. Zpaul2fresh8 is a lying, minipulating, scammer!!!
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Originally posted by snakeatinZ
port the heads and put the hot cam kit in there, you wont be sorry, my car pulls like a raped ape with 103,XXX on the clock. take good care of the motor you have and she will last you for another 100,000 miles.
P.S. Zpaul2fresh8 is a lying, minipulating, scammer!!!
port the heads and put the hot cam kit in there, you wont be sorry, my car pulls like a raped ape with 103,XXX on the clock. take good care of the motor you have and she will last you for another 100,000 miles.
P.S. Zpaul2fresh8 is a lying, minipulating, scammer!!!
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Depends on how many miles you put on in a year. 10k a year? then I would say you may not need a rebuild for 5+ years and would do a cam/heads or whatever. You may deceide not to keep it that long anyway. I don't know. If you put 20k a year on then I would do a rebuild now unless you want to do one in 2-3 years anyway on top of adding whatever now. Just cost alot more.
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Re: Car has 93k on it. H/C or just build a new motor?
Originally posted by SloMofo
Well I have been planning on just building a forged 355 or 383 for a while now, but the price is just insane.
So I am now thinking of just gertting my heads ported, intake port matched & throwing in a cam and just run that till it goes. Maybe throw the 3500 stall and/or nitrous at it like I also have planned.
So should i just continue to sock the money away for a new motor or do H/C combo now?
I just don't wanna do H/C now and wish I had waited to just do the whole motor in a few months.
Car seems to run strong, rich, but strong.
It's a 95 Z28 A4
Well I have been planning on just building a forged 355 or 383 for a while now, but the price is just insane.
So I am now thinking of just gertting my heads ported, intake port matched & throwing in a cam and just run that till it goes. Maybe throw the 3500 stall and/or nitrous at it like I also have planned.
So should i just continue to sock the money away for a new motor or do H/C combo now?
I just don't wanna do H/C now and wish I had waited to just do the whole motor in a few months.
Car seems to run strong, rich, but strong.
It's a 95 Z28 A4
What do you call insane i spent 3k on a fully forged 355 with p&p heads!
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Originally posted by PoorMan
Depends on how many miles you put on in a year. 10k a year? then I would say you may not need a rebuild for 5+ years and would do a cam/heads or whatever. You may deceide not to keep it that long anyway. I don't know. If you put 20k a year on then I would do a rebuild now unless you want to do one in 2-3 years anyway on top of adding whatever now. Just cost alot more.
Jeff D.
Depends on how many miles you put on in a year. 10k a year? then I would say you may not need a rebuild for 5+ years and would do a cam/heads or whatever. You may deceide not to keep it that long anyway. I don't know. If you put 20k a year on then I would do a rebuild now unless you want to do one in 2-3 years anyway on top of adding whatever now. Just cost alot more.
Jeff D.
94SLUG: I assume that was without any labor. I can't do all the work on my porch of my apartment lol. I will be having a shop build it.
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It depends on what you want in the long run. If you wanna be really fast some day running in the low 11s/high 10s or better, then just save for a little while and rebuild the motor while you have it apart. You'll have all (if not more) of the performance than just a heads/cam, plus you can do whatever else you want (nitrous, blower, etc.) safely and without worry. Say you do the heads/cam now, and then decide you want more, you'll probably end up doing a rebuild sooner or later anyways. I'd say just do it now and get it over with, you surely won't regret it!
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Originally posted by Birdie2000
It depends on what you want in the long run. If you wanna be really fast some day running in the low 11s/high 10s or better, then just save for a little while and rebuild the motor while you have it apart. You'll have all (if not more) of the performance than just a heads/cam, plus you can do whatever else you want (nitrous, blower, etc.) safely and without worry. Say you do the heads/cam now, and then decide you want more, you'll probably end up doing a rebuild sooner or later anyways. I'd say just do it now and get it over with, you surely won't regret it!
It depends on what you want in the long run. If you wanna be really fast some day running in the low 11s/high 10s or better, then just save for a little while and rebuild the motor while you have it apart. You'll have all (if not more) of the performance than just a heads/cam, plus you can do whatever else you want (nitrous, blower, etc.) safely and without worry. Say you do the heads/cam now, and then decide you want more, you'll probably end up doing a rebuild sooner or later anyways. I'd say just do it now and get it over with, you surely won't regret it!
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Originally posted by Birdie2000
It depends on what you want in the long run. If you wanna be really fast some day running in the low 11s/high 10s or better, then just save for a little while and rebuild the motor while you have it apart. You'll have all (if not more) of the performance than just a heads/cam, plus you can do whatever else you want (nitrous, blower, etc.) safely and without worry. Say you do the heads/cam now, and then decide you want more, you'll probably end up doing a rebuild sooner or later anyways. I'd say just do it now and get it over with, you surely won't regret it!
It depends on what you want in the long run. If you wanna be really fast some day running in the low 11s/high 10s or better, then just save for a little while and rebuild the motor while you have it apart. You'll have all (if not more) of the performance than just a heads/cam, plus you can do whatever else you want (nitrous, blower, etc.) safely and without worry. Say you do the heads/cam now, and then decide you want more, you'll probably end up doing a rebuild sooner or later anyways. I'd say just do it now and get it over with, you surely won't regret it!
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Originally posted by SloMofo
I would say under 10k a year since it is now just a pleasure car only taken out on nice days. I will be keeping the car forever. I can't see selling it.
94SLUG: I assume that was without any labor. I can't do all the work on my porch of my apartment lol. I will be having a shop build it.
I would say under 10k a year since it is now just a pleasure car only taken out on nice days. I will be keeping the car forever. I can't see selling it.
94SLUG: I assume that was without any labor. I can't do all the work on my porch of my apartment lol. I will be having a shop build it.
That was with all labor and parts(not injectors), iv been trying freaking scan the invoice for the last 30 min. If youy really want ill type the invoice on here. 3.8k for the motor and full assembly from street & strip Miami, Fl 305-278-2262 ask for Al. The stroker would have cost the same money, i just dont like strokers!
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That was with all labor and parts(not injectors), iv been trying freaking scan the invoice for the last 30 min. If youy really want ill type the invoice on here. 3.8k for the motor and full assembly.
That was with all labor and parts(not injectors), iv been trying freaking scan the invoice for the last 30 min. If youy really want ill type the invoice on here. 3.8k for the motor and full assembly.
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LOL I am not calling you a liar. What parts were used? Who did it? Was it built for nitrous or a blower?
LOL I am not calling you a liar. What parts were used? Who did it? Was it built for nitrous or a blower?
3 angle valv job 125.00
Surfacing 42.42
P&P 375.00
Very nice work too, dont have to spend 1800 at GTP to get same quality.R&R pistonsn 52.56
boil block 35.38
Boring 145.44
In cam brgs 32.59
freeze plugs brass 25.25
Bal v-8 225.00
LG block *** 400.00 I did not have to do this but he wanted to build it. Total wast of money.
Min labor 80.00
Total 1538.84
Parts list
ss valvs 160.00
chain& gears 88.00
eagle I beams 230.00
Forged SRP 8.50 to 1 slugs
453.00035 moly rings 109.35
forged eagle forged crank 281.00
roller cam 224/236 240.00
Crane lifters 130.00
Crane spring, retainers, lock 135.00
SFI flywheel 59.95
Comp pro mag rocker 280.00
Molly push rod 88.00
Gaskets 210.00
Thats everthing you need!!! Add injectors and a blower in my case another 4K
.Grand total 3.8k and change. With blower 8K. The motor you speak of could be done for 3k all day long.
Last edited by 94SLUG; May 15, 2003 at 02:04 PM.
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Originally posted by 94SLUG
here is the labor!
3 angle valv job 125.00
Surfacing 42.42
P&P 375.00 Very nice work too, dont have to spend 1800 at GTP to get same quality.
R&R pistonsn 52.56
boil block 35.38
Boring 145.44
In cam brgs 32.59
freeze plugs brass 25.25
Bal v-8 225.00
LG block *** 400.00 I did not have to do this but he wanted to build it. Total wast of money.
Min labor 80.00
Total 1538.84
Parts list
ss valvs 160.00
chain& gears 88.00
eagle I beams 230.00
Forged SRP 8.50 to 1 slugs 453.00
035 moly rings 109.35
forged eagle forged crank 281.00
roller cam 224/236 240.00
Crane lifters 130.00
Crane spring, retainers, lock 135.00
SFI flywheel 59.95
Comp pro mag rocker 280.00
Molly push rod 88.00
Gaskets 210.00
Thats everthing you need!!! Add injectors and a blower in my case another 4K.
Grand total 3.8k and change. With blower 8K. The motor you speak of could be done for 3k all day long.
here is the labor!
3 angle valv job 125.00
Surfacing 42.42
P&P 375.00
Very nice work too, dont have to spend 1800 at GTP to get same quality.R&R pistonsn 52.56
boil block 35.38
Boring 145.44
In cam brgs 32.59
freeze plugs brass 25.25
Bal v-8 225.00
LG block *** 400.00 I did not have to do this but he wanted to build it. Total wast of money.
Min labor 80.00
Total 1538.84
Parts list
ss valvs 160.00
chain& gears 88.00
eagle I beams 230.00
Forged SRP 8.50 to 1 slugs
453.00035 moly rings 109.35
forged eagle forged crank 281.00
roller cam 224/236 240.00
Crane lifters 130.00
Crane spring, retainers, lock 135.00
SFI flywheel 59.95
Comp pro mag rocker 280.00
Molly push rod 88.00
Gaskets 210.00
Thats everthing you need!!! Add injectors and a blower in my case another 4K
.Grand total 3.8k and change. With blower 8K. The motor you speak of could be done for 3k all day long.
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