Im looking to do something big over summer, and want some help on what to do. Should i aim for a good head/cam package, should I stroke it? Im totally going n/a. When the engine is pulled its going to get a full over haul. And problably some forged pistons. if you have Any Ideas or experiences that any of you have gone through please share. thanks for the help.

 

Through an m6 you can get 400 to the wheels with good heads and a large cam on a good tune with the stock bottom end. If the car is properly setup that's enough power to hit 11s no problem.

 

You can definitely run 11s with 400 rwhp but you gotta hook it up too w/o breaking your rearend or smoking your clutch.

 

eeeeek! sorry i fogot to mention I had an A4 w/ 3000 stall and performance rebuild with a shift kit. Im just trying to think of a cost effective way to go about doing this. I see users gettin the 400 mark with LE packages and am just wandering if the stroker kit is even worth time/$. Do you have any suggestions for what to do with the bottem end, Is it worth messing with? Im thinking some forged pistons w/ slightly raised compression will help me achieve my goal.Also part of this summer project will be a new 12 bolt rear end with some mickey's. thanks for the help and keep lettin the help role in.

 

A stroker 383 won't put out more horsepower it will put out more torque though. I've seen dyno sheets with rebuilt 355 motors putting out more horse then a 383. Just my experience and knowledge someone correct me if i'm wrong.

 

More cubes = more power + torque
You either saw some radical 355s or some poorly built 383s, or both.

 

I wouldn't even worry about the bottom end. Just make sure you have all the necessary bolt-ons/accessories/tuning to support your new head/cam package (LT headers, free-flowing exhaust or cutout, new lifters, 58mm TB, etc, etc, etc, etc.) Take whatever you think it's going to cost and multiply it by 150%.

I wouldn't dick around with anyone but Advanced Induction. http://www.advancedinduction.com They aren't run out of their house / garage / small *** shop like most of the other headwork vendors on this site.

Mike

 

no need for a stroker to go 11's. If you set the car up right and put together a nice cam and head package you can easily do it. There are alot of guys including myself who do it on just a cam. You already have an A4 and a mild stall so just concentrate on making the ponies and then gettting them to the ground. It can be done without a big engine rebuild.

 

if your refering to LE, think agian. he does great work. im not saying phil doesnt, im not saying that at all. but theres no need to knock other people. and there work. what does the size of the shop have to do with anything, it quality of work people are after right, and loyds quality is top notch, as well as is costumer service. and since he doesnt have that great big shop in the big city, he doesnt have the over head to pay for.

and im not knocking phil by saying this, but with the same motor (stock lt1), phip is not going to make much more power than LE if at all. now when you get into AFR stuff maybe so. becuase i dont know how much AFR stuff loyd has done. but most people in the lt1 world use ported stock cast. and i know of one car with loyds heads cam package that went 424 rwhp on a stock bottom end. and thats good enough for most of us lt1 guys on a stock bottom end.

if you prefer someone else thats great. and if you think they do better work you have all the right in the world to say so and recomend them to anyone. but lets not knock others peoples work when the do great work. i havent found one person who hasnt been happy with loys stuff. nor have i phils for that mater.

i said all this to say. IM NOT KNOCKING PHIL. BUT LETS NOT KNOCK OTHER PEOPLE.

 

To simply answer your question, yes you can make over 400 and yes you can run in the 11's without stroking the motor. Your best bet would be to take your heads (whoever does them) info and talk to someone who's known to be good at custom ground cams, and get one matched to your heads.

 

Sounds great! But a few questions. Who are some shops that offer custom ground cams with a head package? Also how would my 224/230 xe cam work with some head combo's? Is raising the compression, with some forged pistons worth it/$? I already have some pacesetter LT's(they work awesome by the way). I also have the beehive springs with some 1.6 rr. Would these springs be good enough to use with some nicely ported heads?

How are some of you guys running 11's let alone just on a cam? How do you get that power to the ground? I have Nitto's, and I still cant get it to the ground. Im a descent driver for me being 16, but still the best i can pull off is a 12.9? Thanks for the replies, if you can give some input on these questions I wil deeply appreciate it. Thanks

 

Really, what difference does it make where a business is run from as long as quality service and parts are offered? Do you have any sort of proof that X business ran out of a garage is better than Y shop?

You don't have to pay extra on a part for covering someone's shop rent or payment to get good service IMO.

For what it's worth, Lloyd does a great job at very reasonable prices. Nothing against Phil of course, but let the people decide who they choose from actual results not some random statements.

 

You do not need a stroker to run 11's, you don't even need heads to run 11's. You do need heads to make 400rwhp though. You can have all the hp in the world, but not have the right suspension to put it down and not run a good ET. Buddy of mine has a stock headed lt1 with a baby baby cam, makes just under 320 rwhp and runs 11.90's. One of the key things is tunning, the car that i just mentioned ran 4tenths of a second faster with a good tune(thanks ion) compared to a junk tune. My car ran 11.96 with just a tuch over 320rwhp, so 400 would get you deep into the 11's with a good chassis. Good luck on you quest.

 

What kind of extensive suspension modifications are you talkin? Ive got subrames, panhard, and adjustable spohn torque arm. What else would help? Even with the power im makin now I spin the drag radials. Im wondering what people do to run low times with these Dr's? Im scared if I get them to hot ill blow the rear end.
I still plan on doing heads possibly a cam over the summer, any specific suggestions for a proven combo. I have a tune from pcmforless thats been workin real good so far. How much HP could I gain with a dyno tune, and where could I get it done in the Phoenix AZ area? Anybody? Its nice to have somone finally answer my questions, I like to hear the response.thnx

 

He has the bmr extream duty rear anti-roll bar, hal's all around, sfc, lca's, panhard rod. The car dead hooks almost every time. I just have adjustable rear shocks and lca's, and 90% of the time i hook on my 275/50/15 bfg drag radial. It is a gamble with the stock rear-end. Mine has over 70k miles on it, its bone stock, never had the cover off. It used to be a 6-speed car now its a a3. I also have 2 seasons of track use on it with probrably 100 1.70 60' and a handfull of 1.6's.