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Old Feb 6, 2008 | 05:00 PM
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Cam swap, without pulling the motor?

Is it possible? how long would it take, how hard would it be and does anyone have a link to a "how to?"
Old Feb 6, 2008 | 05:05 PM
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Yes it can be done in the car. Swapping valve springs and doing the cam would be around 10-12 hrs. Do a search and I'm sure you'll find what you need.
Old Feb 6, 2008 | 05:08 PM
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bookmark this entire site. http://shbox.com/1/4th_gen_tech1.html

Cam removal
http://shbox.com/ci/cam_removal.html

Cam install
http://shbox.com/ci/cam_install.html
Old Feb 6, 2008 | 06:36 PM
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Its hard to put an accurate time on it. Some people get it done in a day or less, others it can take a week or longer. It's nothing to rush and you want to make sure you keep the install as clean as possible to avoid any issues down the road.
Old Feb 6, 2008 | 07:44 PM
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I found this write-up very helpful:
http://www.afrashteh.com/guide/install.htm
Old Feb 6, 2008 | 10:30 PM
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I took my time and including delays for parts you forget or those little surprises along
the way, it took me two weeks. And that's with a few goof off days. The thing that
amazed me the most is how close the cam was to hitting the front sheet metal. I'll bet
there was not more than 1/8" to spare. Just lucky that it comes out because I
doubt GM planned it that way.
Old Feb 7, 2008 | 11:02 AM
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I had mine on jackstands for about a month when I did my camswap, working a little now and then. Mostly weekends, when not hungover.. Was easier then I thought and after doing this once I am almost sure I can do it in a Weekend.
Old Feb 7, 2008 | 11:10 AM
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ok next question, which cam is worth the install, on stock heads daily driver.

and i dont mind thumpin cams

i was thinking cc503 but what springs would i want to run with that? and of course 1.6 rr's
Old Feb 7, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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There are many threads on cam swaps.
This should have all you need.

http://www.ls1lt1.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15187
Old Feb 7, 2008 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 96supersport
ok next question, which cam is worth the install, on stock heads daily driver.

and i dont mind thumpin cams

i was thinking cc503 but what springs would i want to run with that? and of course 1.6 rr's
I would recommend that cam. If you can afford some PAC beehive springs, get those, otherwise get the Crane 10308-1 kit.
Old Feb 7, 2008 | 10:11 PM
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The Crane 10308-1 spring kit contains:

99893-16 Valve Springs (130# @ 1.85"; 391#/in rate; CB @ 1.08")
99951-16 Retainers (+.100" height comparison)
99097-1 Locks
99050-1 Shims (.015" thick) [.015 x 1.48 x .703]

Comp 4784-16 Spring Seats [.060 x 1.50 x .570; .735 spring ID] would be much
better than the crappy shims in the 10308 kit.

Although I have never installed the 99893 springs, they are listed as a 1.85"
recommended installed height. If you assume the this is the installed height with
the POS shims in the kit then you will end up with a 1.805" installed height when
you use .060" spring seats.

I actually prefer the Crane 96872 springs because they have a lower spring rate
of 326#/in. You don't need 380# open pressure with a 22x/23x cam. All that
pressure is just going to wear stuff out sooner. At the same open point the 96872
springs will have a pressure of 340#. The closed rates are about the same. Here
is the parts list for the 96872 springs:

Crane 96872-16 Springs (131# @ 1.85"; 326#/in rate; CB @ 1.10")
Crane 99943-16 Retainers (+.100" height comparison)
Crane 99097-1 Locks
Comp 4770-16 Spring Seats [.060 x 1.50 x .585; .690 spring ID]

Regardless of the springs you choose don't use the Crane shims. Use a spring seat
like the Comps.

>>The HEIGHT COMPARISON is a measurement value used to compare the installed height
between Crane Cams retainers. (It is not a comparison to a factory or any other
manufacturer’s retainer.) Our starting point is part no. 99914 with the height value
of (.000). All other Crane Cams retainers are either the same, taller (+) or shorter
(-) in installed height.<<
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