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Old Feb 9, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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bleeding brakes?

I an haveing one hell of a problem bleeding my brakes I did and ls1 brake sway and all steel lines are there any more bleaders then the two on the abs block and the for or the calipers? all six are bleeding like they are supposed to and I cannot find leaks but I just cannot get the brake pedal pressure I should have. any advice?
Old Feb 9, 2004 | 12:02 PM
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Did you get any air in the master cylinder? If so, that is where you should have started.
Old Feb 9, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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how do you bleed the master cylinder? also the brake light on the dash now come on and off
Old Feb 10, 2004 | 12:50 AM
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any advice on how to bleed a master cylinder?
Old Feb 10, 2004 | 01:20 AM
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Chiltons book is your friend

There are bleeder valves on the ABS module that you have to loosen to bleed it! There is a procedure to do it so that's where the chiltons book comes in
Old Feb 10, 2004 | 01:26 AM
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it's kind if hard to bleed our brakes without a tech2
Old Feb 10, 2004 | 02:02 AM
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it's kind if hard to bleed our brakes without a tech2
why?
Old Feb 10, 2004 | 02:33 AM
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Originally posted by Heatmaker
it's kind if hard to bleed our brakes without a tech2
No it's not! This guy is a homo, don't listen to him!

Heatmaker why do you still post $hit you don't know! Stop giving people advice on $hit you don't know what your talking about

You don't need to do any of that bull$hit rehome garbage Ive done it a billion times on plenty of f-bodys I would know!
Old Feb 10, 2004 | 08:45 AM
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No it's not! This guy is a homo, don't listen to him!

Heatmaker why do you still post $hit you don't know! Stop giving people advice on $hit you don't know what your talking about

You don't need to do any of that bull$hit rehome garbage Ive done it a billion times on plenty of f-bodys I would know!

LOL's......are you still jumping on people without hearing the whole story *******?


well lemme tell you mine...

I spent 3 weeks trying to get my brakes bled right.

accidentally I cracked one of my steel lines.

While my ride was down My system completely bleed out.
I had to rebleed everything when I awaited 3 days for my replacement lines from thunder racing. When I got my new lines I hooked everything back up. I took out my good ol' manual and proceeded to bleed the brakes as stated...My brake light stayed on...no matter what I did I could not get this thing to get hard. SO I thought maybe it was the master cylinder...pulled it off. Cleaned it out...tested it...There had been air in there or something...I then cleaned all the debris out of it and put it back on the car... and reconnected it. I then filled it back up...made sure there was no air...and I again rebleed all the brakes...NO DICE! pedal a little harder still mushy...WTF is goign on I thought. I gave up and took the car to a local shop down the road....they could not get it right. They said that they needed a tech2...for some reason the Brake light stayed on..even though they did it the same way I did with no sucess....so I took it to the dealer next. They tried the same thing...COULD not get the brakes right...blamed it on a bad proportioning valve (doubt htey scanned the car). So I go back home...take things apart and bull my Modulator off and clean everything out and replace thepwashers as needed. PUt everything back on the car...try to bleed it again...same freaking problem...pedal is still mushy ABS light is still on.All this bleeding the brakes Word per word. With the advice of the GM service rep and the manual I had. So eventually I got fed up...I couldn't bleed it...the dealer couldn't bleed it...so I decided to try my luck else where...went to another dealer. THis time they put the car up on the lift and tried to bleed it as I did...same sh*tty problem. GUys got frustraited that light was still on just like I...so they scanned it with the TECH2 (BY THE WAY! THE SERVICE MANUAL RECCOMENDS THE USE OF A TECH2 DUrring BRAKE BLEEDING! You got that you Piece of sh8t!" They scanned it and got 87 godamn brake codes in the system! they cleared them all out...and again rebleed the brakes! This time it came out hard as a rock! THey bled them with both the car on and off. No more brake light!

So next time you think you know more than people or have so much experience because you and your neighbor sucessfully bled brakes why don't you STFU and let someone else tell thier story before your uneducated azz decides to jump all over someone when you know very little about them or thier experiences you f34king Piece of sh*t! I'm getting tired of idiots like you on here...I've f34king rebuilt my car from the inside out. From the Tranny to the F34king Air stems in the G-damn tires. by now I think I'd figure I'd be good enough to help someone out with things. Once agai nI never said you CAnnot bled the brake s without a TEch2 or that it was impossible! I said it's not easy to bleed them without a tech2...and show me an F-body manual that does not recommend using a Tech2 or having one handy when bleeding hte brakes...you Flamer!!!! stay off my postings! If you sit back and listen you might learn something! that's whatthese boards are for.

Guys like you really **** me off! You wanna get nuts! Hungh! Do you! You wanna get nutz! Common! LEt's Get Nuts!

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Old Feb 10, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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WOW , i sense some hostility here.

if i can ask a question (without gettin my head bit off), isnt the tech2 only needed if there r existing codes being thrown b4 u start bleedin your brakes.
and also, when bleeding brakes on a car with electronic braking aids (ABS, ASR), i usually take the battery out until i'm COMPLETELY done to avoid any codes being stored while i'm workin (just in case)
Old Feb 10, 2004 | 10:08 AM
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You only need the tech2 if you have traction control
Old Feb 10, 2004 | 10:15 AM
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hmmmmm......that sucks. cause i got traction control and my rear brake lines are cut and pinched off right now. so that means i'm gonna be bleeding them soon.
dropped the rear end of the car, but brake line fittings were rusted together, so i cut the lines. gonna use flaring kit and make new connectors when i put the rear back up. well, hopefully i will be able to do without the tech2.
from what i heard b4 though it wasnt a neccessity...
Old Feb 10, 2004 | 11:27 AM
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I just had my front lines off the ABS motor when dropping the engine out an I did not have to do anything special for bleeding the brakes. I did use a tool similar to a Mityvac at the caliper to do it, though.

From what I have read, you can use the Reverse Fluid Injection (RFI) method and "bleed" the brakes. It needs no intervention with the ABS system, either. What it does is pump brake fluid from the bleeder toward the MC to force the air out (because air naturally rises in a fluid). The method is also supposed to be GM approved (again, from what I read somewhere). It requires a special tool and is kinda like a Mityvac in reverse.
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