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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 01:39 PM
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Black Box over driver side valve cover

When ever I see a pic of someone's engine bay they have that take off. How is that done?
Old Jan 8, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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Re: Black Box over driver side valve cover

That black box is the traction control thing. Its only on some cars, thats why you dont see it on everybody else's car.
Old Jan 8, 2005 | 08:24 PM
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To remove it, you have to replace your throttle and cruise control (if equiped) cables with cables for a non-traction control car. Then have the traction control programmed out in the PCM.
Old Jan 8, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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Or just turn it off, like I do when I wanna have fun!
Old Jan 9, 2005 | 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by n2oCamaro
To remove it, you have to replace your throttle and cruise control (if equiped) cables with cables for a non-traction control car. Then have the traction control programmed out in the PCM.
If you want to keep your ABS, its not that simple. And im not sure if it has even been figured out how to sucessfully remove your traction and keep ABS. If anyone knows, please, PLEASE feel free to chime in.
Old Jan 9, 2005 | 12:55 AM
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Yes, when I ordered my Camaro, I saw the "Traction Control" option. No way in h3ll I wanted that! My car has every option, EXCEPT traction control.

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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 08:13 AM
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If you want to keep your ABS, its not that simple. And im not sure if it has even been figured out how to sucessfully remove your traction and keep ABS. If anyone knows, please, PLEASE feel free to chime in.
Uhh, I removed mine and still have ABS. I assume it is in the programming as I didn't do anything special. Bryan at PCMforless did my base tune and I had him turn off the TC. I will email Byan and see if he does anything special. I don't see how it would that hard since when you turn off the TC with the switch, the ABS still works.
Old Jan 9, 2005 | 11:50 AM
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I remeber someone on here was buying new ABS control module things and he still couldnt get it to work. But if you still definetely have ABS, and simply replaced the cables and got a tune, then hell, thats awesome!
Old Jan 9, 2005 | 11:52 AM
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Oh, OBD-1 or OBD-II, cuz I think that had something to do with it, maybe.
Old Jan 9, 2005 | 12:00 PM
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It is OBD1. That is a good point. I don't know if there is a difference between 1 and 2 concerning ABS. Hopefully Bryan will chime in and shed some light on this. I emailed him earlier and he replied with this. "The ABS is a separate computer from the PCM. So as long as it is still there the ABS functions normally."
Old Jan 27, 2005 | 04:11 PM
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Re: Black Box over driver side valve cover

Originally Posted by n2oCamaro
Uhh, I removed mine and still have ABS. I assume it is in the programming as I didn't do anything special. Bryan at PCMforless did my base tune and I had him turn off the TC. I will email Byan and see if he does anything special. I don't see how it would that hard since when you turn off the TC with the switch, the ABS still works.
What all did you do to remove your TCS? I have a 95 T/A and want to get rid of the TCS. Did you just change the throttle and cruse cables and get it tuned out? If so then that's awesome. Thanks
Old Jan 27, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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Did you just change the throttle and cruse cables and get it tuned out? If so then that's awesome. Thanks
Thats it
Old Jan 27, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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I just removed the cruise cable. (dont use it much anyways), I then took off the TCS box, and everythign connected to it. Then I put in the new throttle cable, and my ABS still works fine. (TCS off) is always on the dash though.

It cost me like 13.00, and now I can get the drivers side valve cover off in like 30 seconds. The engine bay looks alot cleaner.
Old Jan 27, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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Yeah, I did a little more research and OBD-1 cars and OBD-II cars have a COMPLETELY different ABS module, so the affect of removing the traction control is very different on the different ones. Would it be possible however, to simply make everything think that the TCS is still there, but it not be? Like remove it, but place some kind of resistor or something in there so the comp and everything thinks that its still there?
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