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anybody running the cc306 or 230/236 in an A4 w/ 2800 stall or smaller?

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Old May 23, 2004 | 12:08 AM
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anybody running the cc306 or 230/236 in an A4 w/ 2800 stall or smaller?

Just curious how bad the cam surge is and if it is possible to drive with that size convertor. I plan to do a convertor swap in the future but i would rather get the cam and then get the convertor to match it. Also if you have this type of setup what times are you turning?
Old May 23, 2004 | 04:05 AM
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You will want to get the converter, AND gears, THEN get the cam. At least thats the way you will end up happiest. Actually id start with gears then converter then cam, but thats just me
Old May 23, 2004 | 08:21 AM
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i've already got gears, stall, long tubes, and about damn near every other thing imaginable but i'm wondering if anyone has ran a convertor that small with either of these cams. comp recommends a 2500 stall with the cc306 but i think that is a joke and i'm looking for some people with these cams in autos for input.
Old May 23, 2004 | 08:55 AM
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you would want a 3200 to 3500 for a 306
Old May 23, 2004 | 09:10 AM
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I disagree with 1 Nasty on the process there.

When ordering a stall for your specific needs (race car? daily driver? compromise of the two?) and set up, the cam spec's are are an important piece of information the converter manufacturer uses to come up with a stall for your car.

That said, if you want a stall matches to your cam, you'd get the cam, then order the stall. You could also try just getting the stall set up for the cam you have in mind and get the cam later. Of course, another option is to just pick a stall out of a catalog/web site and order it without going through the customization process.
Old May 23, 2004 | 07:08 PM
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Originally posted by jkipp84
I disagree with 1 Nasty on the process there.

When ordering a stall for your specific needs (race car? daily driver? compromise of the two?) and set up, the cam spec's are are an important piece of information the converter manufacturer uses to come up with a stall for your car.

That said, if you want a stall matches to your cam, you'd get the cam, then order the stall. You could also try just getting the stall set up for the cam you have in mind and get the cam later. Of course, another option is to just pick a stall out of a catalog/web site and order it without going through the customization process.
jkipp84, right now i'm running the cc305 (220/230 .544/.544 114lsa) with a 2400 stall also. I've ran an 8.05 which should be around the 12.4-12.5 range but i'm looking to switch cams to hopefully dip into the 7s (1/8th mile). i've been thinking about the two mentioned above as well as the 224/230. do you have any times with your setup?
Old May 23, 2004 | 07:34 PM
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i wouldnt get more than a 3200 for a daily driven car.

dont forget the dreaded high problem for the obd1 cars.
Old May 23, 2004 | 07:41 PM
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I'm running a stock stall with a bigger converter then either of those and it's plenty drivable with 3.73s and a good tune
Old May 24, 2004 | 11:06 PM
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I would get lloyed elliot to port your heads and get one of his custom cams I am sure he can answer all your ?'s. You could probably need a 3000stall at least for any of his grinds. Hope this helps

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Old May 24, 2004 | 11:10 PM
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I would get lloyed elliot to port your heads and get one of his custom cams I am sure he can answer all your ?'s. You could probably need a 3000stall at least for any of his grinds. Hope this helps

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thanks man. how is the car running after the recent "tuneup"?
Old May 24, 2004 | 11:18 PM
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I did some research on the 230/236 cam before the stall was ordered for the build up i am doing. 2800-3200 seemed to be the best, anymore than 3200 most people said was excesive with that cam, I went in the middle with a 3000 stall vig. Anymore than that I think is going to be kinda annoying on a daily driver/street car, it just depends on what you can live with.
Old May 24, 2004 | 11:19 PM
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just chekin in here also. in my Iroc I have a biger cam (w/3:73 gears) and since my cheapo stall broke, I had to put back in the stock conv.. it drove very nice and didnt have any surging. shouldnt be a problem at all.
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Old May 24, 2004 | 11:26 PM
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You can get away with running the cam on the stock stall for a while. I was running my 230/236 last week on the stock stall. Granted that it will bog really bad out of the hole but it'll still run. I just ordered a midwest 3200 stall for it. And, yes there was some cam surge issues.
Old May 24, 2004 | 11:30 PM
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well i'm running a 2400 stall and 3.73s right now, so i'm thinking that i can get by for a while. i just needed some reassurance...
Old May 24, 2004 | 11:45 PM
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I'm running my 306 on a stock converter and it's just fine. Am I getting the full potential out of the cam? No, but it is fine for me and make a great daily driver. Gas mileage is not bad, and there is minimal cam surge.



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