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Any 396 stroker people in here??

Old Jul 15, 2004 | 10:33 PM
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Dude, I said:

Originally posted by engineermike
Lunati Pro Mod and Oliver rods have alot more clearance in that area.
Then, you said to me:

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FACT:Well if you had of used the Oliver rod cap screws in your rods and resized them,you would not have had to touch the pan rails or pan!!!!!!
(FACT)There is more than one way to do a stroker.
Hmmm. . .

Also, I really doubt a different bolt alone would totally fix the stroker clearance issues. I've built three 383's, one with stock rods, one with Oliver Pro Mod I-beams, and one with Eagle H-beams. Every one needed some clearancing to the pan rails in the block, but the Eagles needed the most by far.

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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 10:40 PM
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If you have doweled caps with capscrews,you can call Oliver rod Co. and get them.
To resize them take them to your machine shop along with Oliver's torque spects and let them resize them.You will also have less grinding on the bottom of the cyl's.(less chance of hitting water and more strength)
Old Jul 15, 2004 | 10:46 PM
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Originally posted by engineermike
Dude, I said:



Then, you said to me:



Hmmm. . .

Also, I really doubt a different bolt alone would totally fix the stroker clearance issues. I've built three 383's, one with stock rods, one with Oliver Pro Mod I-beams, and one with Eagle H-beams. Every one needed some clearancing to the pan rails in the block, but the Eagles needed the most by far.

Mike
Just got through with a mock up and clearence on a 383 an did not have to grind the pan rails.Stock LT-1 Vette block with Canton pan.

Didn't say there was no grinding on the bottom of the cyl's,but is much less than normal,And you can take that to the bank.

I've built a few engines since the '50's also.
Old Jul 15, 2004 | 10:51 PM
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I am no pro yet and I wanna build a 396...so how complecated is this clearancing process?
Old Jul 15, 2004 | 10:57 PM
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Enough so that it should be done by someone that has done it. If you grind to much or in the wrong place you are subject to hit water.
If a pro does it and he makes a mistake then he owes you a new block.
Old Jul 15, 2004 | 10:58 PM
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So how much ?? am I looking at when a machine shop does this for me?
Old Jul 15, 2004 | 11:08 PM
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I charge $150.00 for the clearancing.If I am building the shortblock it is included in the total price.
Different places charge different prices.
Old Jul 15, 2004 | 11:09 PM
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Well I want to do as much as I can by myself so I can learn and save a lot of money....thanks for your info !
Old Jul 15, 2004 | 11:16 PM
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Good luck with it.
Old Jul 16, 2004 | 05:12 PM
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I average 3-4 383 builds per month along with the normal stuff and have yet to find an oem block that did not need clearancing. Most (not all) late model blocks do need some clearancing on the pan rails. Some only need it on one side due to core shift so it is tough to just eyeball it without either actually mocking it up or using a fixture to simulate the rod. With my fixture I can have the block done in about 45 minutes and know it will clear a 383 with H beams and I just need to go a little more for the 396 cranks. It's not really hard to do but I would probably suggest taking to a good shop that build a lot of strokers and they should not charge an arm an a leg.
Old Jul 16, 2004 | 06:11 PM
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yeah just got mine running btw i only paid $1350 for the same forged kit but have fun
And I thought I got a good deal Sooo where did you get yours??
Old Jul 16, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 04:16 PM
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396 stroker here, just fired it up yesterday for the first time, drove it a little today, LOTS of torque, way more than my previous stock bottom end cam/head setup. Parts used in the buildup in the sig.



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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 02:17 PM
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Kewl,so the your 396 rolls than. So the AFR215's is a good choice for the 396's? What CC did you go with? What intake did you use? Ported?
Juat trying to get some info since I'm going into this buildup blind.
Old Jul 18, 2004 | 03:30 PM
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AFR 215 RR would work great, but you will need a raised runner intake to match the heads. AFR 210's would work great, as thats what I am using. I have a welded and ported LT4 intake to match the heads. Yes, at the minimum the intake needs to be ported. I have mine welded up by the injector bungs so that when the intake was ported, the roof and the runners could be straightened out. Without the welding there will be a nice "pinch" left in the roof, and the metal is thin in that area as is.
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