? for all the lt1 guys about loudness
05-07-2003, 04:18 PM
#16
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Originally posted by lt4 fd
lol and with a name like tripintaz who are you making fun of for being a stoner, not saying you are but just something to think about..... maybe your not serious
lol and with a name like tripintaz who are you making fun of for being a stoner, not saying you are but just something to think about..... maybe your not serious
TriPinTaZ= Tazmanian devil in the old cartoons where he trips out and goes crazy spining thru trees. This was the basis for my screename which ive had for 6 years. Hence TriPin TaZ
And im sorry that we were mean to him but that has to be one of the top 10 stupidest questions ever.
05-07-2003, 04:30 PM
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geez, a lot of you guys are so quick to get on the high horse..
I don't agree weith wanting a car that's "loud and bad azz", but that's just what he wants. As for the SS badging, he paid for his car, he can call it what he wants. I think I'll call my "camaro z28" just a "camaro", and take the z28 badges off (implying that its the v6 model), and nobody would have any qualms about that.
Anyway, just tell him - SS badging on a z28 is not "right", and an lt4 km should have no effect on sound. He probably has an exhaust leak or vaccum leak that slowly affected his LTtrims and richened up the mixture.. when he took out his PCM, it probably reset it.
He never insulted any of you guys personally, even in his replies, but you guys continued to get personal and insult him about his personal life (weed smoking), which is a personal decision and has nothing to do with his car or the question asked..
man, some of you guys just need to chill out.
I don't agree weith wanting a car that's "loud and bad azz", but that's just what he wants. As for the SS badging, he paid for his car, he can call it what he wants. I think I'll call my "camaro z28" just a "camaro", and take the z28 badges off (implying that its the v6 model), and nobody would have any qualms about that.
Anyway, just tell him - SS badging on a z28 is not "right", and an lt4 km should have no effect on sound. He probably has an exhaust leak or vaccum leak that slowly affected his LTtrims and richened up the mixture.. when he took out his PCM, it probably reset it.
He never insulted any of you guys personally, even in his replies, but you guys continued to get personal and insult him about his personal life (weed smoking), which is a personal decision and has nothing to do with his car or the question asked..
man, some of you guys just need to chill out.
05-07-2003, 05:53 PM
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"#1, puttign better parts on your car doesnt make it an SS....If I mod my Trans-Am enough can i call it a Pontiac Ferarri ????"
That wasn't a very good comparison in my opinion. Maybe adding WS6 badging would be a better comparison.
I dont think taking off your Z28 badging and putting on SS badging is cool, but I have seen some pretty nice custom ones where they first laid down a vinyl "Super Sport" in a script looking font and put the Z28 badging on top [not to cover up the Super Sport part though.]
It looked pretty unique and didn't make it look like an impersonation. If I put a ram-air hood and a bunch of mods on my car, I would probably do something similar to that. I love SS's and their individual numbering, but like he said - he could buy a Z28 and add the other stuff after and save some cash.
That wasn't a very good comparison in my opinion. Maybe adding WS6 badging would be a better comparison.
I dont think taking off your Z28 badging and putting on SS badging is cool, but I have seen some pretty nice custom ones where they first laid down a vinyl "Super Sport" in a script looking font and put the Z28 badging on top [not to cover up the Super Sport part though.]
It looked pretty unique and didn't make it look like an impersonation. If I put a ram-air hood and a bunch of mods on my car, I would probably do something similar to that. I love SS's and their individual numbering, but like he said - he could buy a Z28 and add the other stuff after and save some cash.
05-07-2003, 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by mineralwater
geez, a lot of you guys are so quick to get on the high horse..
I don't agree weith wanting a car that's "loud and bad azz", but that's just what he wants. As for the SS badging, he paid for his car, he can call it what he wants. I think I'll call my "camaro z28" just a "camaro", and take the z28 badges off (implying that its the v6 model), and nobody would have any qualms about that.
Anyway, just tell him - SS badging on a z28 is not "right", and an lt4 km should have no effect on sound. He probably has an exhaust leak or vaccum leak that slowly affected his LTtrims and richened up the mixture.. when he took out his PCM, it probably reset it.
He never insulted any of you guys personally, even in his replies, but you guys continued to get personal and insult him about his personal life (weed smoking), which is a personal decision and has nothing to do with his car or the question asked..
man, some of you guys just need to chill out.
geez, a lot of you guys are so quick to get on the high horse..
I don't agree weith wanting a car that's "loud and bad azz", but that's just what he wants. As for the SS badging, he paid for his car, he can call it what he wants. I think I'll call my "camaro z28" just a "camaro", and take the z28 badges off (implying that its the v6 model), and nobody would have any qualms about that.
Anyway, just tell him - SS badging on a z28 is not "right", and an lt4 km should have no effect on sound. He probably has an exhaust leak or vaccum leak that slowly affected his LTtrims and richened up the mixture.. when he took out his PCM, it probably reset it.
He never insulted any of you guys personally, even in his replies, but you guys continued to get personal and insult him about his personal life (weed smoking), which is a personal decision and has nothing to do with his car or the question asked..
man, some of you guys just need to chill out.
05-07-2003, 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by TriPinTaZ
#1, puttign better parts on your car doesnt make it an SS....If I mod my Trans-Am enough can i call it a Pontiac Ferarri ????
#2 Knock module does not have any effect on sound, you must have been stoned or something and put the caps back on your cut offs and forgot about it. Look under your car....Oh Also If the car was in a garage or carport when you thought it was louder than it is now that would be a reason. Tall buildings and garages make the cars exhaust resonate and sound louder......
#3...if #2 does nto apply then you have a littel green leaprachaun hiding in your Flowmaster stealing all your exhaust sounds and smoking a DooBie
#1, puttign better parts on your car doesnt make it an SS....If I mod my Trans-Am enough can i call it a Pontiac Ferarri ????
#2 Knock module does not have any effect on sound, you must have been stoned or something and put the caps back on your cut offs and forgot about it. Look under your car....Oh Also If the car was in a garage or carport when you thought it was louder than it is now that would be a reason. Tall buildings and garages make the cars exhaust resonate and sound louder......
#3...if #2 does nto apply then you have a littel green leaprachaun hiding in your Flowmaster stealing all your exhaust sounds and smoking a DooBie
05-07-2003, 07:36 PM
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Yes and no it will change your exhaust tone.
With the cutout and stock KM, your getting false knock retard, thus changing your timing.
The LT4 eliminates this and gives you more consistant timing advance.
I know this because I had two PCMs, one for nitrous and one for all motor usage. The nitrous computer had 32* of timing at WOT, and the all motor computer has 37*.
There was a definate change in pitch of the exhaust between the two computers, but not in loudness so much.
If you want it louder and you think by going to the stock KM, go for it, but you'll be slightly slower.
With the cutout and stock KM, your getting false knock retard, thus changing your timing.
The LT4 eliminates this and gives you more consistant timing advance.
I know this because I had two PCMs, one for nitrous and one for all motor usage. The nitrous computer had 32* of timing at WOT, and the all motor computer has 37*.
There was a definate change in pitch of the exhaust between the two computers, but not in loudness so much.
If you want it louder and you think by going to the stock KM, go for it, but you'll be slightly slower.
05-08-2003, 12:35 AM
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Originally posted by Kain
Yes and no it will change your exhaust tone.
With the cutout and stock KM, your getting false knock retard, thus changing your timing.
The LT4 eliminates this and gives you more consistant timing advance.
I know this because I had two PCMs, one for nitrous and one for all motor usage. The nitrous computer had 32* of timing at WOT, and the all motor computer has 37*.
There was a definate change in pitch of the exhaust between the two computers, but not in loudness so much.
If you want it louder and you think by going to the stock KM, go for it, but you'll be slightly slower.
Yes and no it will change your exhaust tone.
With the cutout and stock KM, your getting false knock retard, thus changing your timing.
The LT4 eliminates this and gives you more consistant timing advance.
I know this because I had two PCMs, one for nitrous and one for all motor usage. The nitrous computer had 32* of timing at WOT, and the all motor computer has 37*.
There was a definate change in pitch of the exhaust between the two computers, but not in loudness so much.
If you want it louder and you think by going to the stock KM, go for it, but you'll be slightly slower.
05-08-2003, 12:42 AM
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Originally posted by Dmx4ever3
first off i want to say thank you for giving me a answer for the ? in hand but i would love to hear more about this by other motor heads like people that have been on the board for a while
first off i want to say thank you for giving me a answer for the ? in hand but i would love to hear more about this by other motor heads like people that have been on the board for a while
05-08-2003, 08:38 AM
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Originally posted by ArcticYT95TA
You change your thermostat from 180 in the winter, to a 160 in the summer? OMG, that is about the funniest thing I have heard in a long time
PS - Lay off on the smokin up....your brain, along with your typing skills, are showing signs of competing with a 4th grader.
You change your thermostat from 180 in the winter, to a 160 in the summer? OMG, that is about the funniest thing I have heard in a long time
PS - Lay off on the smokin up....your brain, along with your typing skills, are showing signs of competing with a 4th grader.
05-08-2003, 10:20 AM
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It's time for me to jump on this bandwagon...changing from LT1-LT4 KM can change your exhaust tone-and will depending on your mods. If you had an lt1 Km after your headers and catback it will be louder because of retard that causes unspent gases to be higher and thus the exhaust would be cooler per say due to the gases. When you put in your lt4 module it did not retard as much thus making the timing more efficient and causing a hotter gasflow thru the exhaust and toning it down a bit. When we start our cars and they are cold they are much louder then when it is warmed up. And smoking pot recreationally is not a bad thing--just like people who drink recreationally. My cousin is a serious pothead and it does make you stupid if you smoke constantly. He is dummer then shiznit. But anyways if your car was running rich from false knock your exhaust would be louder. Plus you reset your pcm and any codes that were temporararily stored were wiped and the car ran normal again.
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05-08-2003, 10:38 AM
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Maybe it's as simple as you got used to the sound. I don't realize how loud my car is anymore unless I cap it up for a few days or drive another vehicle for a little while. Try running around capped up for a day or two and then uncap it and see if you notice anything...... Or what those smart car guys said. 
