All LT1 Gurus Inside... a true Stumper question at my expense
Ok here is the deal, I installed heads/cam/headers on a 1997 LT1 get everything back together and fire her up and she flat won't idle and the driver side exhaust gets super hot in mere seconds while the pass. side it just barely warm. I talk to Joe Riggs and he says check for vaccum leak and I remember I have not yet sealed off the EGR tube. So I seal the EGR tube and let the car set for a while, restart the car and things are better but not cured. Now she will start up and surge to about 1500rpm and then level out to about 1000 and seem to run fine but after about a minute tops she drops rpms to about 500 and spits and sputters SES light comes on and she dies or I turn her off. Again the exhaust headers on the driver side are super hot and the pass. side only warm. I am at a loss as to what the problem could be and I can't A-Tap the car.
I have check the plugs and wires count less times.
I pulled and checked the opti and timing gears all appers to be correct.
I have plugged any possible vaccum leaks that I have discovered.
Valve lash was set the same way all the way around.
It is as if the driver side is running super lean and causing excess heat. Do any of you LT1 folks have any ideas?? Help Please!!
I installed Hot Cam kit with 1.6 roller rockers/ my ported and polished heads/hooker headers w/jet hot coating.
Also a PCMforless tuned computer.
sorry this is a repost but i thought we solved the problem but turned out not to be solved... i repeat we have been up and down and all around.... got a miss fire code on it... getting scanned today.. hopefully autotapped...
ANY info or insight ideals ect. is appreciated.... very frustating times.... makes me wanna almost give up...
I have check the plugs and wires count less times.
I pulled and checked the opti and timing gears all appers to be correct.
I have plugged any possible vaccum leaks that I have discovered.
Valve lash was set the same way all the way around.
It is as if the driver side is running super lean and causing excess heat. Do any of you LT1 folks have any ideas?? Help Please!!
I installed Hot Cam kit with 1.6 roller rockers/ my ported and polished heads/hooker headers w/jet hot coating.
Also a PCMforless tuned computer.
sorry this is a repost but i thought we solved the problem but turned out not to be solved... i repeat we have been up and down and all around.... got a miss fire code on it... getting scanned today.. hopefully autotapped...
ANY info or insight ideals ect. is appreciated.... very frustating times.... makes me wanna almost give up...
o2's on both the old set and we installed new ones after header install... we thought that ourselves... but ran fine..... we thought a huge leak on my stock manifolds and clogged cat was initially causing this case.... well we was wrong...
my question could a defect in the porting of the head cause it to run so lean? we started it up pulled it a car length turned it off opened the hood and water on the hood hit the driver side header and hissed..... ODD
could opti have any play in this? i dont see how but we getting miss fires thrown at us to.. (flashing SES)
my question could a defect in the porting of the head cause it to run so lean? we started it up pulled it a car length turned it off opened the hood and water on the hood hit the driver side header and hissed..... ODD
could opti have any play in this? i dont see how but we getting miss fires thrown at us to.. (flashing SES)
could it be a coolant flow issue through the head?
did you install the air bleed tubes in the back of the head properly? or did you strip that bolt and replace it with a regular one?
I dont thing minor differences in porting could cause such a problem but i could be wrong..
A clogged exhaust could certainly cause it or a bad O2.
header leak mabye... but i doubt it.
pre-ignition problem due to combustion chamber irregularities...
fuel injector thats not firing.....Thats about all I can think of...
did you install the air bleed tubes in the back of the head properly? or did you strip that bolt and replace it with a regular one?
I dont thing minor differences in porting could cause such a problem but i could be wrong..
A clogged exhaust could certainly cause it or a bad O2.
header leak mabye... but i doubt it.
pre-ignition problem due to combustion chamber irregularities...
fuel injector thats not firing.....Thats about all I can think of...
It either sounds like you put the timing chain on wrong, you didn't cut the opti dowel down proporly or probably the likely solution, you have a leak at the headers somewhere throwing your o2 sensor readings off.
One of my buddies (Kertong) was doing a hotcam kit and he had similar problems (one primary glowing red, other side weird, and running horribly). It turned out that his timing chain was off one tooth. Mebbe get someone else over there to look at it and offer and second perspective? My money is on timing chain.
Matt
Matt
Re: All LT1 Gurus Inside... a true Stumper question at my expense
Originally posted by eXo24
Ok here is the deal, I installed heads/cam/headers on a 1997 LT1 get everything back together and fire her up and she flat won't idle and the driver side exhaust gets super hot in mere seconds while the pass. side it just barely warm. I talk to Joe Riggs and he says check for vaccum leak and I remember I have not yet sealed off the EGR tube. So I seal the EGR tube and let the car set for a while, restart the car and things are better but not cured. Now she will start up and surge to about 1500rpm and then level out to about 1000 and seem to run fine but after about a minute tops she drops rpms to about 500 and spits and sputters SES light comes on and she dies or I turn her off. Again the exhaust headers on the driver side are super hot and the pass. side only warm. I am at a loss as to what the problem could be and I can't A-Tap the car.
I have check the plugs and wires count less times.
I pulled and checked the opti and timing gears all appers to be correct.
I have plugged any possible vaccum leaks that I have discovered.
Valve lash was set the same way all the way around.
It is as if the driver side is running super lean and causing excess heat. Do any of you LT1 folks have any ideas?? Help Please!!
I installed Hot Cam kit with 1.6 roller rockers/ my ported and polished heads/hooker headers w/jet hot coating.
Also a PCMforless tuned computer.
sorry this is a repost but i thought we solved the problem but turned out not to be solved... i repeat we have been up and down and all around.... got a miss fire code on it... getting scanned today.. hopefully autotapped...
ANY info or insight ideals ect. is appreciated.... very frustating times.... makes me wanna almost give up...
Ok here is the deal, I installed heads/cam/headers on a 1997 LT1 get everything back together and fire her up and she flat won't idle and the driver side exhaust gets super hot in mere seconds while the pass. side it just barely warm. I talk to Joe Riggs and he says check for vaccum leak and I remember I have not yet sealed off the EGR tube. So I seal the EGR tube and let the car set for a while, restart the car and things are better but not cured. Now she will start up and surge to about 1500rpm and then level out to about 1000 and seem to run fine but after about a minute tops she drops rpms to about 500 and spits and sputters SES light comes on and she dies or I turn her off. Again the exhaust headers on the driver side are super hot and the pass. side only warm. I am at a loss as to what the problem could be and I can't A-Tap the car.
I have check the plugs and wires count less times.
I pulled and checked the opti and timing gears all appers to be correct.
I have plugged any possible vaccum leaks that I have discovered.
Valve lash was set the same way all the way around.
It is as if the driver side is running super lean and causing excess heat. Do any of you LT1 folks have any ideas?? Help Please!!
I installed Hot Cam kit with 1.6 roller rockers/ my ported and polished heads/hooker headers w/jet hot coating.
Also a PCMforless tuned computer.
sorry this is a repost but i thought we solved the problem but turned out not to be solved... i repeat we have been up and down and all around.... got a miss fire code on it... getting scanned today.. hopefully autotapped...
ANY info or insight ideals ect. is appreciated.... very frustating times.... makes me wanna almost give up...
Have you tried setting the valves again. Also, how many turns did you go when you set them, and what procedure did you use?
Originally posted by Notford95
One of my buddies (Kertong) was doing a hotcam kit and he had similar problems (one primary glowing red, other side weird, and running horribly). It turned out that his timing chain was off one tooth. Mebbe get someone else over there to look at it and offer and second perspective? My money is on timing chain.
Matt
One of my buddies (Kertong) was doing a hotcam kit and he had similar problems (one primary glowing red, other side weird, and running horribly). It turned out that his timing chain was off one tooth. Mebbe get someone else over there to look at it and offer and second perspective? My money is on timing chain.
Matt
i was thinkin the clogged coolant but temp gauge reads fine.. and thats why i went ahead and put the headers on because when we intially fired her up we belived that it was a veryt bad leak.... and you could see the dust blowing from under the car.. but turns out to not be the case re placed o2s (left back 2 off)
oh an di ment to add it has NO pick up whatsover... NONE
the guy installed the heads used the GM instructions taht came with the hot cam kit... he said it was differnt from his proceedure but used it anyway just incase... but thanks guys we'll be using your sudjestions to weed this out.. hopefully soon
Re: All LT1 Gurus Inside... a true Stumper question at my expense
Originally posted by eXo24
Now she will start up and surge to about 1500rpm and then level out to about 1000 and seem to run fine but after about a minute tops she drops rpms to about 500 and spits and sputters SES light comes on and she dies or I turn her off.
ANY info or insight ideals ect. is appreciated.... very frustating times.... makes me wanna almost give up...
Now she will start up and surge to about 1500rpm and then level out to about 1000 and seem to run fine but after about a minute tops she drops rpms to about 500 and spits and sputters SES light comes on and she dies or I turn her off.
ANY info or insight ideals ect. is appreciated.... very frustating times.... makes me wanna almost give up...
P.S. I know they ALL have throttle-body's. I mean throttle-body injection "TBI". I don't know what effect an injector putting out a LOT of gas would have on a multi-port engine. But on a TBI it floods it out giving the idle symptoms stated. (Old car I used to have did that!!)


