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Adjusted Rockers....Now bent pushrod:(

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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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Adjusted Rockers....Now bent pushrod:(

My rockers were not making any noise or anything but ever since I did the rebuild, I've had a feeling that I adjusted them too tight(3/4 past 0 lash). So yesterday after work I adjusted them to 1/8 past zero lash using shbox's instructions. Started the engine, heard a ticking sound, thought it was that sewing machine sound everybody talks about, so I drove home and then the ticking got LOUD. I took the valvecovers off today and found both rockers on #2 cylinder completely off of the pushrods. Only one pushrod was bent and nothing else looked messed up, so I installed two new pushrods and this time I adjusted the rockers while the engine was running. I did 1/4 turn past 0 lash and most of the ticking is gone but can still here a high pitched tick if I really pay atention. Its running strong and I think I noticed an increse in power at high RPMs.

With the engine running method, is 1/4 turn past 0 lash good or should there be more preload?

My theory is that when i did them the first time, I did it all backwards(I was at #6 TDC when I thought it was #1TDC ect.) could that have been it?
Old Mar 15, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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Hopefully you didn't also bend a valve.
Old Mar 15, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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I always recommend adjusting lash in the following way because there is no way to make a mistake for those that don't do it daily.

Exhaust Opening...Intake Closing.


Put the rockers on and just lightly finger tight all the locks, crank the motor so that you can make them all just finger tight or basically 0 lash....now rotate the motor over slowly, as you see the exhaust valve starting to open on one cylinder, adjust the intake valve that accompanies it. As you are rotating the motor over more and see an intake valve starting to close adjust that cylinder's exhaust valve.

Anywhere from 1/4 turn to just over a full turn is fine for a hydraulic lifter, they are designed to work in the middle 2/3's of their available dry lash - it will equalize to the pre-load that you have set it at . I always set them at 1/2 min to 3/4.
Old Mar 15, 2009 | 09:31 PM
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IMHO, if you are paying attention, you can't mistake #1 for #6, but I guess it happens.

If you say you used instructions on my site, it could be one of several methods.

All methods of adjustment (including one like mentioned above) are listed on my site.
Old Mar 15, 2009 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by shoebox
IMHO, if you are paying attention, you can't mistake #1 for #6, but I guess it happens.
Its hard to explain but to put #1 TDC I turned the crank til I saw the intake valve open then close and then turned it a little more so that the arrow on the balancer was pointing up. But I'm not 100% sure that my balancer is on right. so I dont know if that would affect anything?

And do you guys think I'm ok with 1/4 turn past 0 lash with the engine running method?
Old Mar 15, 2009 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 97'Z-28
Its hard to explain but to put #1 TDC I turned the crank til I saw the intake valve open then close and then turned it a little more so that the arrow on the balancer was pointing up. But I'm not 100% sure that my balancer is on right. so I dont know if that would affect anything?

And do you guys think I'm ok with 1/4 turn past 0 lash with the engine running method?
That should be good, unless the hub has moved.

You should be fine with the lash you last set.
Old Mar 15, 2009 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Stl94LT1
Hopefully you didn't also bend a valve.
Sorry for the dumb question but why would a valve bend if the pushrod was no longer opening/closing the valve?
once the pushrods were no longer in they're place, the valves stay shut right?
Old Mar 15, 2009 | 11:48 PM
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Maybe he's thinking you bent it first before the pushrod got bent. Just guessing.
Old Mar 16, 2009 | 12:49 PM
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Normally a bent pushrod is from piston to valve contact.
Old Mar 16, 2009 | 01:40 PM
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I had to adjust my lash twice. (97ss 383ci - D1) Comp promag's with trickflo PR's and guides with 7/16 arp studs. I did as Machinist 1 has commented (Adj @ intake and exhaust open/ close events), except, I noticed after my RR change, the lifters were not feeling like 100% pumped with oil. I started the engine and noticed some ticking sound. Got all the oil pressure up there. Then, adjusted the lash a second time. Quite a difference in lash load the second time around. Of course, this is just my experience and opinion. B.
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