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100 unleaded gas Knock Retard is gone. Good or Bad?

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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 10:56 PM
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100 unleaded gas Knock Retard is gone. Good or Bad?

After I used seafoam my car is getting up to 9.5 degrees of knock @ WOT on my scanmaster. I replaced my plugs,wires,oil,fuel filter and still had knock. Today I went to the gas station to put in some 100 octane gas in. @ first I still had knock, after driving the car for a couple miles the knock retard went away. Is that good or bad? Yes I have an LT4 KM,no cats

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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 11:03 PM
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IMO thats bad because it means it was real knock, not false engine noise knock. In theory old engines have carbon deposits which create hotspots and contribute to knock. Seafoam *should* help that.

It's possible that you disrupted the deposits in the engine and the seafoam actually made it worse. I don't have any real experience with this but: I would try the seafoam again, your kind of committed to it now. Hopefully the knock is just because the seafoam knocked some stuff loose and it hasn't been flushed out yet, so maybe another dose of seafoam is the answer to finish up the cleaning job you started ??? Maybe someone else has run into this problem after seafoaming.

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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 01:15 AM
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Update....I used all the 100 octane gas. I always use Chevron,this time I put in Shell gas I didn't get any knock while driving. Do you think the Chevron gas was causing the knock?
Old Nov 30, 2003 | 01:22 AM
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where'd you get 100 octane in So Cal?
Old Nov 30, 2003 | 01:33 AM
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 10:30 AM
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Update....I used all the 100 octane gas. I always use Chevron,this time I put in Shell gas I didn't get any knock while driving. Do you think the Chevron gas was causing the knock?
I've got a bad tank of gas a couple of times and had high knock retard the entire tank. Retard went away soon after I filled it back up again. My guess is that you got a bad batch of gas
Old Nov 30, 2003 | 11:08 PM
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 12:15 AM
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Will O2's cause knock? I know seafoam has been known to kill O2 sensors. But it does just sound like bad gas to me...
Old Dec 1, 2003 | 12:49 AM
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No i don't think bad o2's will cause knock. But your car will run bad. I'm pretty sure you just got a bad batch of gas. I usually use chevron or 76 gasoline. But i went to a cheap little independent gas station one time and i was seeing 3* of knock because of it.
Old Dec 1, 2003 | 01:57 AM
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Yeah, probably bad gas... pardon. Anyway, you probably got gas at a station where they receintly filled the tanks. When they drop a load (of gas), they mix up what's in the tank (water at the bottom, fuel on the top) and water gets into the gas until it settles back down. If you see a tanker filling a station, skip it and go to the next one.

Bad O2's usually make a car run rich. Since the computer can't get a reading it will go into limp mode which runs off a richer table.
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