LS1 Based Engine Tech LS1 / LS6 / LS2 / LS3 / LS7 Engine Tech

Why exactly do you guys change the "Lid"

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 27, 2005 | 12:25 AM
  #1  
LS1transam99's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 43
Why exactly do you guys change the "Lid"

Hey guys, i am new to the LS1, but why do you change the "lid" on the car? Also, is there a CAI for the LS1? Where is the best place to get a Lid? Thanks
Old Jan 27, 2005 | 12:43 AM
  #2  
Capn Pete's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 5,308
From: Oshawa - Home of the 5th-gen
Re: Why exactly do you guys change the "Lid"

The "lid" is referring to the airbox lid. The factory one is low, and baffled, whereas aftermarket ones are smooth and opened up a lot more compared to the factory one. Replacing the lid is "like" putting a CAI on an LT1. You'll get more intake flow for sure. There are real "cold air kits" that work like "ram air".....the Super Sucker Ram Air kit, and the Fast Toys Ram Air kit (commonly referred to as SSRA or FTRA). There is also the FRA (free ram air) mod, that is just cutting out some of the plastic from underneath the air filter.....again, just to reduce the intake restriction.
Old Jan 27, 2005 | 09:22 AM
  #3  
burnout04's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 123
From: Woodbridge, VA
Re: Why exactly do you guys change the "Lid"

Try this, get like a 1 inch section of a drink straw. Pinch the straw so that the opening is a thin oval shape. Try sucking air in. Now let it be a nice open circle, and try sucking air in. Now, pretend you're an ls1. This is the difference between our stock POS airlid, and an aftermarket one.
Old Jan 27, 2005 | 04:55 PM
  #4  
Eric @ DMS's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 292
From: Dynamic Motorsports
Re: Why exactly do you guys change the "Lid"

Exactly what was said. The air lid is definitely worth it's price. That should be one of, if not the first, performance mod you purchase.
Old Jan 27, 2005 | 05:39 PM
  #5  
shamrockcustoms's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 8
From: DFW, TX
Re: Why exactly do you guys change the "Lid"

works best in conjunction with MAF change too........
Old Jan 27, 2005 | 05:45 PM
  #6  
Doc99SS's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 75
From: Monroe, Michigan
Re: Why exactly do you guys change the "Lid"

shamrockcustoms: This is true about air lids and MAFs, however, a modified MAF or an aftermarket MAF will need PCM tuning.
Old Jan 27, 2005 | 08:43 PM
  #7  
Antz97ZNJ's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 3,223
From: Browns Mills, New Jersey
Re: Why exactly do you guys change the "Lid"

theres many lids made, and all the companies sell them...it simply alows more air into the engine
Old Jan 28, 2005 | 03:58 PM
  #8  
Eric @ DMS's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 292
From: Dynamic Motorsports
Re: Why exactly do you guys change the "Lid"

Originally Posted by Doc99SS
shamrockcustoms: This is true about air lids and MAFs, however, a modified MAF or an aftermarket MAF will need PCM tuning.
Which MAFs are you referring to? Properly calibrated MAFs will not require you to get a tune.
Old Jan 28, 2005 | 04:28 PM
  #9  
shouldaboughtthez's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 507
From: NW Houston, Tx
Re: Why exactly do you guys change the "Lid"

Change the lid but not the MAF. The stock maf will be good for 450hp. There are big threads discussing this on a few different boards including this one. I am not going to go into discussion about this nor do I want to hijak this thread over the maf subject.
And yes there are alot of lids out there. All the lids do the samething, the only thing different is where you get it.
Old Jan 30, 2005 | 07:14 AM
  #10  
irocdreamer's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 189
From: Austin, TX
Re: Why exactly do you guys change the "Lid"

How much HP does a lid normally add?
Old Jan 30, 2005 | 11:15 AM
  #11  
zdmcman's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 14
From: Honolulu, Hawaii
Re: Why exactly do you guys change the "Lid"

what about the slp lid that comes with the ss with the slp exhaust package?
Old Jan 30, 2005 | 11:59 AM
  #12  
J3ff's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 58
Re: Why exactly do you guys change the "Lid"

I am wondering the same... my lid looks pretty clean inside........ I have the SS Hood, and exausht.....should i get a new lid?
Old Jan 31, 2005 | 08:47 AM
  #13  
shanebang76's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 136
From: greenville south carolina
Re: Why exactly do you guys change the "Lid"

I didnt know that SS's with the SLP package came with the lid. I just thaught it had the exhaust that exits in the middle, better maniflods, and the hood. My friend's SLP SS came with the factory lid...
Old Jan 31, 2005 | 06:41 PM
  #14  
MasterEvilAce's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 755
Re: Why exactly do you guys change the "Lid"

I think the better lid/exhaust was part of the 245HP package offered in 2002 only.
Old Jan 31, 2005 | 10:41 PM
  #15  
Capn Pete's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 5,308
From: Oshawa - Home of the 5th-gen
Re: Why exactly do you guys change the "Lid"

Originally Posted by MasterEvilAce
I think the better lid/exhaust was part of the 245HP package offered in 2002 only.
245HP?!




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:14 AM.