I think i have my plan kinda mapped out but I want yall opinion on it first:

Here goes
Gen3 LS6 cam
Patriot Stage II heads
TCI3800 Stall Converter & Cooler
FlowTech Cutout
SLP Stock replacement Ypipe

Im thinkin this should get me to around 380 at the wheels if im not mistaken. My main thing is who's had experience with the patriot heads? Also some may wonder my reasoning for the small cam and not going with longtubes...I live in NJ and they are getting stricter every year with emissions it seems so i figure the slp ypipe will at least make up for the squashed stocker probably one of thee worst parts of a stock exhaust and the ls6 cam should be emissions friendly. Thanks for your help.

lata
Bill

 

If you are going to get your heads ported, you might as well get a more agressive cam. I'm sure there are other people on here that can tell you what can you can get away with.. The sponsers, like MTI, can help with that too..

 

anyone else have an opinion on this combo before i start buying the parts or an opionn on the patriot heads? Should i go with the 5.3 truck heads or the stock compression? Im not going to run nitrous...

thanks again
Bill

 

Bill,

We should have some numbers with the Patriots tonight or tomorrow morning. It will be on an automatic with Mac's, stall, catback, etc., and a 232/228 cam(can't remember what all he has but will post his mods when we get numbers).

If you are looking for a little more cam, you might try a 220 single pattern. We installed this on a C5 last week and picked up 31RW with stock manifolds, cats and exhaust.
I have also seen people pass emmissions with a 224 single pattern on a 114LSA.

On the heads, the stage IIs come with just under 10.5:1 compression. If you want more compression, you'll just have to specify when you order the heads.

Are you planning on running a little more gear with this setup?

Brian

 

Sounds good...well im not sure if i want more compression to be honest once i got on the phone with you guys i was gonna see what you recommended...ive read up on people making big power with both so I wanted your opinion on that in the end anywayz.

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Are you planning on running a little more gear with this setup?

Brian

I'd like to step up to 3.23's or 3.42's eventually god hath given the car 2.73's for the time being though unfortunatly and i see it being last on my big things to do list considering 3.73's with the auto have given people problems at times and a jump from 2.73's to 3.23's really isnt that big of a jump in gearing i didnt consider it top priority. I thought with a higher stall converter it would help out in the 60' time area anywayz...i know im not gonna hit the traps at the optimum rpm but to be honest this is my daily driver so im not all that concerned with 1/4 times yet either. Yeah like i said tell me what youd recommend to me knowing that i drive it daily do you think the converter is too high? Or should gearing be a high priority even with just the slight change? And should i be getting the 5.3 heads instead?

Thanks Much
Bill

 

lets see...
1 i think thats to much converter for a everyday driver
2 if your going to put a cam in put one that will make power not the ls6 thats a turd at least get the hot cam,or really get a TR220 or 224 on a 114 lsa or a MTI B1 these are great cams and are proven performers and will get you in the range you want and be totally driveable everyday
3 go with Absolute heads Jay does incredible work and stands behind his work and his price cant be beat
4 the SLP y pipe will not make more power by itself its a myth its been proven does it look like it should YES but it dont
5 a good set of headers will really wake up the car and should not be a problem in NJ and a good set are KOOKs,Dynatechs,Hooker,
6 gears always wake a car up

 

keep in mind im on kind of a budget and i figured the 2000 dollar parts list i made was pretty efficient in getting what i want...i know a 500-700 dollar set uf headers in the best way to go but i dont feel like removing them in favor of the stock setup in 14 months when nj ins is due, i know gears will wake a car up but would ls1 edit cure the woes a lot of guys have with higher gearing? Im still new to the ls1 cars so i do need a tad bit of help...absolute is fine but 1300 for heads that would do the trick with no core isnt a bad deal unless otherwise noted....as far as cam goes emissions is my only true concern if its true a larger can is gonna pass i havnt heard it from an nj mouth...

lata
Bill

 

Bill,

I think you would be fine with a 3800. I think its a very streetable converter. Swapping to 3.42s will definitely help out. The converter will feel pretty loose until you get the gears swapped out. The 3.42s and 3800 will work well with your setup.
I think to hit 380RW you are going to need more cam than the LS6 and some headers.

We got some results on the car I mentioned earlier. His mods were Mac's, LS6 intake, Yank 3200 Converter, Borla, lid, SLP Cam(214/222, .559"/.566", 112), AMS tuning.
We added a TSP 232/228, Patriot Heads and tuning. We picked up just under 55RWHP. The car dynoed at 382RWHP.

Brian

 

Thanks brian Im probably gonna get some mac longtubes when push comes to shove just wanna ge tthe best bang for my buck and i figured heads and cam would be the best way to go for as much peformance as possible right off the bat. As far as cam goes ill just have to start hounding NJ peeps as to what will and wont pass. Even with just those heads though id think you couldve hit close to 360 at the wheels which would put it in the low 12's.

lata
Bill

 

ever thought of a dry kit? ls1's do better on dry kits ( i have ppl in moy town to prove it) and the lt1 is good with wet kits (again ppl in my town that have it)

 

and the fact its an instant 100hp or 150hp if you get bigger injectors

 

Bill,

The Mac's are a mid-length header. If you are going heads/cam, I would go with a long tube to see the full potential out of the setup. We "should" be receiving our shipment of Pacesetter LT's this week. They run $330.99 for the coated LT's and $120.99 for the y-pipe. I think you could see 360, but you would see better numbers with all the bolt-ons. Just so you know, Trevor ran low 11.40s last November in his 02SS with a 228 single pattern, stock heads, all the bolt-ons. He put down 369RWHP.

Brian