WATER UNDER MY CARPET!!! UGHH!!!
#1
WATER UNDER MY CARPET!!! UGHH!!!
Guys,
I was vaccuming my car today and when I picked up the driver side floor mat there was a 12" diameter soaked spot.
I took the shop vac and pulled the carpet back, sucked up an inch or so of water and about cried!
I have T-tops , but show no signs of leaking.
A buddy came by and said that it could be my front cowl and windshield molding leaking.
Has anybody experienced this????
Also to add... no its not anti-freeze or on the passenger side.
I have an extended Warranty , but I have to pay a 50 dollar deductable and miss work to take the damn thing down to the dealer.
If anyone has experienced this please give me some ideas.
Thanks
Mike
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1999 Z28 LS1 Camaro
A-4 Bone stock time below
8.80 flat at 82.3 mph.
Metallic Blue,Leather,T-Tops.
New mods...
K&N,Flowmaster With 3" cutout,TB bypass,EGR mod,
Fan mod.New Times...
8.66 @ 84.1 mph 1/8th
13.26 @ 105.1 mph 1/4.
Gone ,but not forgotten..
My 01 GT Casper 8.50s 1/8th with minor bolt ons
1997 Ram air TA 7.70s in 1/8th spraying the juice.
1996 TA 8.00s in the 1/8th on the juice.
1995 Mustang GT 9.30s in the 1/8th with bolt ons.
I was vaccuming my car today and when I picked up the driver side floor mat there was a 12" diameter soaked spot.
I took the shop vac and pulled the carpet back, sucked up an inch or so of water and about cried!
I have T-tops , but show no signs of leaking.
A buddy came by and said that it could be my front cowl and windshield molding leaking.
Has anybody experienced this????
Also to add... no its not anti-freeze or on the passenger side.
I have an extended Warranty , but I have to pay a 50 dollar deductable and miss work to take the damn thing down to the dealer.
If anyone has experienced this please give me some ideas.
Thanks
Mike
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1999 Z28 LS1 Camaro
A-4 Bone stock time below
8.80 flat at 82.3 mph.
Metallic Blue,Leather,T-Tops.
New mods...
K&N,Flowmaster With 3" cutout,TB bypass,EGR mod,
Fan mod.New Times...
8.66 @ 84.1 mph 1/8th
13.26 @ 105.1 mph 1/4.
Gone ,but not forgotten..
My 01 GT Casper 8.50s 1/8th with minor bolt ons
1997 Ram air TA 7.70s in 1/8th spraying the juice.
1996 TA 8.00s in the 1/8th on the juice.
1995 Mustang GT 9.30s in the 1/8th with bolt ons.
#2
under each floor board is a rubber gromet. My rear passenger side leaked and i had water in my back floor board. Just lay under the door and pull it out, then silicone around it and put it back in. That worked for me. What happened was water got around the lip of the gromet and the carpet pad just soaked up what it could.
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98 midnight blue, A4, 3.23's, billett grill, k&n, flowmaster with cutout, painted interior. <A HREF="http://community.webshots.com/user/blue98ss[/URL" TARGET=_blank>
R/T-]http://community.webshots.com/user/blue98ss</A>
R/T- .877
60'- 2.053
330- 5.810
1/8- 8.840@81.88
1000- 11.461
1/4- 13.69@100.92
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98 midnight blue, A4, 3.23's, billett grill, k&n, flowmaster with cutout, painted interior. <A HREF="http://community.webshots.com/user/blue98ss[/URL" TARGET=_blank>
R/T-]http://community.webshots.com/user/blue98ss</A>
R/T- .877
60'- 2.053
330- 5.810
1/8- 8.840@81.88
1000- 11.461
1/4- 13.69@100.92
#3
Thanks bud,
I hope thats all it is. I will jack it up tomorrow and check the grommets.
Later
Mike
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1999 Z28 LS1 Camaro
A-4 Bone stock time below
8.80 flat at 82.3 mph.
Metallic Blue,Leather,T-Tops.
New mods...
K&N,Flowmaster With 3" cutout,TB bypass,EGR mod,
Fan mod.New Times...
8.66 @ 84.1 mph 1/8th
13.26 @ 105.1 mph 1/4.
Gone ,but not forgotten..
My 01 GT Casper 8.50s 1/8th with minor bolt ons
1997 Ram air TA 7.70s in 1/8th spraying the juice.
1996 TA 8.00s in the 1/8th on the juice.
1995 Mustang GT 9.30s in the 1/8th with bolt ons.
I hope thats all it is. I will jack it up tomorrow and check the grommets.
Later
Mike
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1999 Z28 LS1 Camaro
A-4 Bone stock time below
8.80 flat at 82.3 mph.
Metallic Blue,Leather,T-Tops.
New mods...
K&N,Flowmaster With 3" cutout,TB bypass,EGR mod,
Fan mod.New Times...
8.66 @ 84.1 mph 1/8th
13.26 @ 105.1 mph 1/4.
Gone ,but not forgotten..
My 01 GT Casper 8.50s 1/8th with minor bolt ons
1997 Ram air TA 7.70s in 1/8th spraying the juice.
1996 TA 8.00s in the 1/8th on the juice.
1995 Mustang GT 9.30s in the 1/8th with bolt ons.
#4
Not sure if this is your problem or not but a few years ago I had a similar problem with a '95 Z28 that I bought used (9 months old and 9500 miles).
Same as you I was vacuuming it and and lifted the mats and sqishhhh.... the floor was soaked. Maybe a 1/4" of water sitting on the floor. As it turns out, the previous owner had an alarm system installed and the installer pushed out the grommet in the firewall that sits just above the drivers side inner wheel well. The wheel well has the perfect contour to line up with that grommet if it's been removed and will flood the floor.
Good luck.
Same as you I was vacuuming it and and lifted the mats and sqishhhh.... the floor was soaked. Maybe a 1/4" of water sitting on the floor. As it turns out, the previous owner had an alarm system installed and the installer pushed out the grommet in the firewall that sits just above the drivers side inner wheel well. The wheel well has the perfect contour to line up with that grommet if it's been removed and will flood the floor.
Good luck.
#5
Welcome to my 1 1/2 year old nightmare!
I've gutted my interior, checked the seal around the windshield, looked at every grommet, and still, I get water in my passenger side floorboard everytime it rains. I've made numerous post about this over at www.ls1.com and tried many things and nothings worked. I don't even have T-Tops.
If you find the solution, please post it because I've pretty much just given up. Every time it rains, I pull the mats up and put towels in the floorboards to soak up the water.
Good luck!
I've gutted my interior, checked the seal around the windshield, looked at every grommet, and still, I get water in my passenger side floorboard everytime it rains. I've made numerous post about this over at www.ls1.com and tried many things and nothings worked. I don't even have T-Tops.
If you find the solution, please post it because I've pretty much just given up. Every time it rains, I pull the mats up and put towels in the floorboards to soak up the water.
Good luck!
#6
one more place you could look is the bolts that hold the seat down. I haven't take the seats out of my camaro but my truck seat bolts go all the way through the floor board. I had the seat out and you can see straight to the ground. just a thought. Good luck guys.
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2002 Camaro SS #2288 M6
!CAGS
Stock Dyno Run with 5,460 miles:
RWHP 302.7
RWTQ 320.5
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2002 Camaro SS #2288 M6
!CAGS
Stock Dyno Run with 5,460 miles:
RWHP 302.7
RWTQ 320.5
#7
Thanks ,
I hope to find something this evening, but after hearing some of you guys horror stories I may be in for the nightmare with ya.
I will post back this evening.
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1999 Z28 LS1 Camaro
A-4 Bone stock time below
8.80 flat at 82.3 mph.
Metallic Blue,Leather,T-Tops.
New mods...
K&N,Flowmaster With 3" cutout,TB bypass,EGR mod,
Fan mod.New Times...
8.66 @ 84.1 mph 1/8th
13.26 @ 105.1 mph 1/4.
Gone ,but not forgotten..
My 01 GT Casper 8.50s 1/8th with minor bolt ons
1997 Ram air TA 7.70s in 1/8th spraying the juice.
1996 TA 8.00s in the 1/8th on the juice.
1995 Mustang GT 9.30s in the 1/8th with bolt ons.
I hope to find something this evening, but after hearing some of you guys horror stories I may be in for the nightmare with ya.
I will post back this evening.
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1999 Z28 LS1 Camaro
A-4 Bone stock time below
8.80 flat at 82.3 mph.
Metallic Blue,Leather,T-Tops.
New mods...
K&N,Flowmaster With 3" cutout,TB bypass,EGR mod,
Fan mod.New Times...
8.66 @ 84.1 mph 1/8th
13.26 @ 105.1 mph 1/4.
Gone ,but not forgotten..
My 01 GT Casper 8.50s 1/8th with minor bolt ons
1997 Ram air TA 7.70s in 1/8th spraying the juice.
1996 TA 8.00s in the 1/8th on the juice.
1995 Mustang GT 9.30s in the 1/8th with bolt ons.
#8
i have the same problem wit a 98 ttops but they dont leak, its only the passenger side
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1998 Black Camaro Z-28
6 speed pro 5.o shifter
BMR Subframe connectors
BMR strut tower brace
BMR Rear Control Arms
BMR AdjustablePanhard Bar
Baer Eradispeed Rotors
on all 4 wheels
nitto drag radials
air lid
K&N Filter
fast toys ram air
Mass Air Flow Sensor
Slp Loudmouth Exhaust
Dvd with screen
Tinted Windows(now just rear windshield)
Ran 13.398 with ****ty stock bald tires havnr run with the nittos yet
Doing some mods but at 16 life is hard
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1998 Black Camaro Z-28
6 speed pro 5.o shifter
BMR Subframe connectors
BMR strut tower brace
BMR Rear Control Arms
BMR AdjustablePanhard Bar
Baer Eradispeed Rotors
on all 4 wheels
nitto drag radials
air lid
K&N Filter
fast toys ram air
Mass Air Flow Sensor
Slp Loudmouth Exhaust
Dvd with screen
Tinted Windows(now just rear windshield)
Ran 13.398 with ****ty stock bald tires havnr run with the nittos yet
Doing some mods but at 16 life is hard
#9
Well , I found out that I have 1/4 inch of water under the carpet in the front and rear on both sides! Jesus was my car submerged in lake Norman? Im taking it to the dealer in the morning and raising hell.
I will let you know what they find out
Later
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1999 Z28 LS1 Camaro
A-4 with factory 2.73s,
Metallic Blue,Leather,T-Tops.
Mods...
K&N,Flowmaster With 3" cutout.
Times...
8.66 @ 84.1 mph 1/8th
13.26 @ 105.1 mph 1/4.
Gone ,but not forgotten..
My 01 GT Casper 8.50s 1/8th with minor bolt ons
1997 Ram air TA 7.70s in 1/8th spraying the juice.
1996 TA 8.00s in the 1/8th on the juice.
1995 Mustang GT 9.30s in the 1/8th with bolt ons.
I will let you know what they find out
Later
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1999 Z28 LS1 Camaro
A-4 with factory 2.73s,
Metallic Blue,Leather,T-Tops.
Mods...
K&N,Flowmaster With 3" cutout.
Times...
8.66 @ 84.1 mph 1/8th
13.26 @ 105.1 mph 1/4.
Gone ,but not forgotten..
My 01 GT Casper 8.50s 1/8th with minor bolt ons
1997 Ram air TA 7.70s in 1/8th spraying the juice.
1996 TA 8.00s in the 1/8th on the juice.
1995 Mustang GT 9.30s in the 1/8th with bolt ons.
#10
BAD NEWS! The GM Major Guard Warranty covers everything EXCEPT wind/water leaks! I paid almost a $1000 for my $0 deductible GM Major Guard Warranty and it will NOT cover my water problem! And of course my problem didn't develop until 3 months after I ran out of the original warranty!
#11
I did a search and found my 2 threads on this subject over at www.ls1.com There's a lot of good information in them:
http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread...threadid=49267
and
http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread...threadid=75015
Good luck!
http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread...threadid=49267
and
http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread...threadid=75015
Good luck!
#12
Well Here is the scoop...
I took the car to the dealer this morning and they were telling me that since this was Saturday that they couldnt do anything until Monday morning.I got a dealer loaner car and left mine there.As I sat at the house I became more and more frustrated and wanted to do something.I decided that I would call the dealer and go pick up my car and pull the carpet myself.Well they had already closed shop and went home so I decided I was gonna grab my spare key and run by the dealer.They just parked my car out back with 20 or so other cars without a fence or anything.I parked the Dodge Neon loaner (barf)
and got into my car and drove it to the house.There I proceeded to take out seats,belts,bolts,consol,carpet and found that im leaking in the driver floor and both back seat compartments, you know the two bowls you sit in
I had to pull out most all of my undermatting because it was soaked and heavy!!! I vacuumed all of the water and observed the little rubber grommets(we have 3 per side)and around the ones where water was they were not sealing very well.I popped them out,ran a thick bead of silicone inside the rubber grommets and popped them back in.
One thing is for sure...
I went to the track last week and ran a 13.26 with the mods below and 2.73 gear and probably carrying about 40 lbs of soggy carpet undermatting around with me.Hopefully I will pick up half a tenth now that I pulled all of my undermatting material out.
I have a question though regarding me getting my car.
Did I do wrong by picking up my car after dealer hours without thier knowledge?
Wonder if they will mind ?
Thanks guys
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1999 Z28 LS1 Camaro
A-4 with factory 2.73s,
Metallic Blue,Leather,T-Tops.
Mods...
K&N,Flowmaster With 3" cutout.
Times...
8.66 @ 84.1 mph 1/8th
13.26 @ 105.1 mph 1/4.
Gone ,but not forgotten..
My 01 GT Casper 8.50s 1/8th with minor bolt ons
1997 Ram air TA 7.70s in 1/8th spraying the juice.
1996 TA 8.00s in the 1/8th on the juice.
1995 Mustang GT 9.30s in the 1/8th with bolt ons.
I took the car to the dealer this morning and they were telling me that since this was Saturday that they couldnt do anything until Monday morning.I got a dealer loaner car and left mine there.As I sat at the house I became more and more frustrated and wanted to do something.I decided that I would call the dealer and go pick up my car and pull the carpet myself.Well they had already closed shop and went home so I decided I was gonna grab my spare key and run by the dealer.They just parked my car out back with 20 or so other cars without a fence or anything.I parked the Dodge Neon loaner (barf)
and got into my car and drove it to the house.There I proceeded to take out seats,belts,bolts,consol,carpet and found that im leaking in the driver floor and both back seat compartments, you know the two bowls you sit in
I had to pull out most all of my undermatting because it was soaked and heavy!!! I vacuumed all of the water and observed the little rubber grommets(we have 3 per side)and around the ones where water was they were not sealing very well.I popped them out,ran a thick bead of silicone inside the rubber grommets and popped them back in.
One thing is for sure...
I went to the track last week and ran a 13.26 with the mods below and 2.73 gear and probably carrying about 40 lbs of soggy carpet undermatting around with me.Hopefully I will pick up half a tenth now that I pulled all of my undermatting material out.
I have a question though regarding me getting my car.
Did I do wrong by picking up my car after dealer hours without thier knowledge?
Wonder if they will mind ?
Thanks guys
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1999 Z28 LS1 Camaro
A-4 with factory 2.73s,
Metallic Blue,Leather,T-Tops.
Mods...
K&N,Flowmaster With 3" cutout.
Times...
8.66 @ 84.1 mph 1/8th
13.26 @ 105.1 mph 1/4.
Gone ,but not forgotten..
My 01 GT Casper 8.50s 1/8th with minor bolt ons
1997 Ram air TA 7.70s in 1/8th spraying the juice.
1996 TA 8.00s in the 1/8th on the juice.
1995 Mustang GT 9.30s in the 1/8th with bolt ons.
#13
BandDirector,
I really think the grommets are my problem because when I applied a small amount of pressure with one finger they just fell out!
The passenger area that was dry as a bone had some guey sealant around the grommet and it was ver tough to push it out.I silicone sealed all of them and I will report if this fixes the problem.
Later
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1999 Z28 LS1 Camaro
A-4 with factory 2.73s,
Metallic Blue,Leather,T-Tops.
Mods...
K&N,Flowmaster With 3" cutout.
Times...
8.66 @ 84.1 mph 1/8th
13.26 @ 105.1 mph 1/4.
Gone ,but not forgotten..
My 01 GT Casper 8.50s 1/8th with minor bolt ons
1997 Ram air TA 7.70s in 1/8th spraying the juice.
1996 TA 8.00s in the 1/8th on the juice.
1995 Mustang GT 9.30s in the 1/8th with bolt ons.
I really think the grommets are my problem because when I applied a small amount of pressure with one finger they just fell out!
The passenger area that was dry as a bone had some guey sealant around the grommet and it was ver tough to push it out.I silicone sealed all of them and I will report if this fixes the problem.
Later
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1999 Z28 LS1 Camaro
A-4 with factory 2.73s,
Metallic Blue,Leather,T-Tops.
Mods...
K&N,Flowmaster With 3" cutout.
Times...
8.66 @ 84.1 mph 1/8th
13.26 @ 105.1 mph 1/4.
Gone ,but not forgotten..
My 01 GT Casper 8.50s 1/8th with minor bolt ons
1997 Ram air TA 7.70s in 1/8th spraying the juice.
1996 TA 8.00s in the 1/8th on the juice.
1995 Mustang GT 9.30s in the 1/8th with bolt ons.
#15
Ok,
I pulled up the carpet and in the bottom floor pan you will notice 3 round rubber grommets per side.1 in the driver floor,1 in the rear floor and 1 in the rear seat bowl.
If you inspect the grommets and they just push through without a fight then it is probably leaking around it.I talked to the dealer and he said that from the factory they put sealant around those and to his knowledge have never had a problem.
I must be the first because 4 of my 6 grommets pushed right through.These were also the places the water was.I inspected and found the passenger front and rear floor were fine and the grommets had glue stuff on them.I pushed them out and re- siliconed them just because I was already in there and didnt intend on going through this hell again.
Let me know if I made sence or not.
Later
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1999 Z28 LS1 Camaro
A-4 with factory 2.73s,
Metallic Blue,Leather,T-Tops.
Mods...
K&N,Flowmaster With 3" cutout.
Times...
8.66 @ 84.1 mph 1/8th
13.26 @ 105.1 mph 1/4.
Gone ,but not forgotten..
My 01 GT Casper 8.50s 1/8th with minor bolt ons
1997 Ram air TA 7.70s in 1/8th spraying the juice.
1996 TA 8.00s in the 1/8th on the juice.
1995 Mustang GT 9.30s in the 1/8th with bolt ons.
I pulled up the carpet and in the bottom floor pan you will notice 3 round rubber grommets per side.1 in the driver floor,1 in the rear floor and 1 in the rear seat bowl.
If you inspect the grommets and they just push through without a fight then it is probably leaking around it.I talked to the dealer and he said that from the factory they put sealant around those and to his knowledge have never had a problem.
I must be the first because 4 of my 6 grommets pushed right through.These were also the places the water was.I inspected and found the passenger front and rear floor were fine and the grommets had glue stuff on them.I pushed them out and re- siliconed them just because I was already in there and didnt intend on going through this hell again.
Let me know if I made sence or not.
Later
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1999 Z28 LS1 Camaro
A-4 with factory 2.73s,
Metallic Blue,Leather,T-Tops.
Mods...
K&N,Flowmaster With 3" cutout.
Times...
8.66 @ 84.1 mph 1/8th
13.26 @ 105.1 mph 1/4.
Gone ,but not forgotten..
My 01 GT Casper 8.50s 1/8th with minor bolt ons
1997 Ram air TA 7.70s in 1/8th spraying the juice.
1996 TA 8.00s in the 1/8th on the juice.
1995 Mustang GT 9.30s in the 1/8th with bolt ons.