Torque Converter, should I get one? If so, which one and what are the negatives and positives if I get one?

Will it void my warranty? Can it cause any damage to my car?

I heard your gas pedal feels loose when you get a TC, can someone explain that to me?

I have 3.23s, so should I get a 3000 stall or a 2800, or even a 3200? The higher the stall, the faster but the more risk of breaking something???

Thanks.

 

If you go to the track a converter will make you car wake up and run alot quicker, for the pedal feel i would suggest 3.73's gears and a transgo shift kit to get shift firmness back and add lifetime to the tranny w/ a cooler. If your gonna drive it thru the winter i would wait til spring to get it but its your decision. If it is your weekend driver and toy car that never sees the track its not really worth it in my opinion it is harder to drive if its a true stall and you will lose all traction when you punch it from a stop on the street. There are lots of differet opinions on this subject, but a converter and slicks will drop .5 if done w/ the other things i mentioned definite bang for the buck. im goin w/ a st3500 stall converter, get yank it has the best stall rating and tranny will last the longest w/ it, vigilante is not as good.

 

What if I just get a 2800 Yank Stall and keep my 3.23s?? Will it improve my cars times yet not risk much potential damage?????

Thanks.

 

Definately do a converter. Many companies offer several levels of converters. The most popular companies are Yank, Precision Industries (I have a Vig3200), TCI, MidWest, etc ... to name a few.

Torque Converter, should I get one?
Depends on what you want to do with your car? Will it be mainly strip, only street, or both?

If so, which one and what are the negatives and positives if I get one?
Negatives ... more pedal effort to take off from a stop. If you have a loud exhaust, it will make the car more noticeable. Positives ... I saw .88 reduction in ET with my converter and tires. Depending on how mod'ed an M6 is, you should be able to beat them off the line and (depending on the converter) from a roll.

Will it void my warranty?
Depends on the dealer, some will see reason to void the warranty because you used different fuel.

Can it cause any damage to my car?
The converter itself and how it acts will not damage your car at all.

I heard your gas pedal feels loose when you get a TC, can someone explain that to me?
The pedal itself will feel the same. What they are saying is (try this to understand what it is) it feels like starting out in second gear. If you have a 2000-2002 V8 F-body, you should be able to place the selector in 2 and feel what a converter will feel like.

I have 3.23s, so should I get a 3000 stall or a 2800, or even a 3200?
I get at least a 3200 stall. I have a Vig3200 (stalls to 3600) in my SS.

The higher the stall, the faster but the more risk of breaking something???
The convertre itself will not break anything, it is the tires you use at the track (or street) and launching at 3000 rpms that can break things. Mostly it is the M6ers who break things because they shock the drivetrain. A4s preload the drivetrain, so not as much risk is there to break things.

You should do more research on the subject. First and fore most, the Vig are one of best converters out there for street/strip applications (especially the 2800 and 3200). As far as the St3500 you are planning to get, it will be used. Especially since Yank no longer produces them, due to clutch chatter issues and constant SES code throwing. Go do research on LS1.com and LS1Tech.com. Although they do offer a great and promising replacement converter, the Super Street 3600-3800

 

Everyone i have talked to swears by yanks st3500, i have seen 2 LT1 cars w/ vigilante converters and neither stalled near their advertised, they both stalled around 2200 when i think they were 2800. im aware they no longer produce st3500 but i am gettin one new from my buddies speed shop had one left they are keeping for me. Who are you to bash a company/converter everyone has different results and the ones ive seen lead me to this. You dropped .88 from a converter and tires, thats a great gain but dont expect that on every car.

 

My car is daily driven and most of my races will take place on the street and I rarely race on the street. I just want an edge. Thats what I'm looking for. I think I like the sound of this converter.....Cause I'm really concerned about my warranty.


The Stealth Yank 2600/ SLP 2600 is for those who want a low-cost increase in performance without raising a "red flag" with your dealer. The Stealth provides most of its gain below 2600 rpm, ideal for someone looking for a nice boost in 0 - 30 mph acceleration with street tires. The Stealth has great drivability, but offers the least performance gain, typically a .2 - .3 second decrease in the 1/4 mile time.

This 300mm diameter, high stall, lock up torque converter for the Camaro and Firebird equipped with a 4L60E automatic transmission improves performance by raising the stall speed to approximately 2600 RPM. This puts the engine higher in its power and for a stronger launch. Your 0-60 and 1/4 mile performance times can be reduced by as much as 2 to 3 tenths! Specified by SLP and built exclusively for us by Yank Converters, it features an oversize roller clutch, for the ultimate in durability.

Each converter is individually balanced and arrives ready for installation. They are completely compatible with your car's stock PCM and retain the factory lock up features for highway performance and mileage. This converter is effective on vehicles with mild modifications and up to 3:42 rear gears. With ANY high stall converter an auxiliary transmission cooler is recommended.

Does anyone have this converter? If so, are you happy with it?

 

Mystery Z28, with that converter, you'll be wanting more. I had purchased one of those. Although I did not install it, and glad I did not. If you want to go conservative (for warranty issues), try the SLP3300 (made by Yank).

Listen, I am not bashing any company/converter, unlike you. I even said Yank makes a great and promising replacement converter, the Super Street 3600-3800. I posted real facts of why the ST3500 was discontinued. As I said, do your research and quit talking out of your a$$. BTW, the one eveyone swears by is the Yank's Thruster Pros (4000-4400)!

 

I used to have the Stealth 2600 in my car but I upped it to a SY3500, which I am very happy with. The 2600 was really nice for being able to roast the tires at will and feeling very stock, but it didn't give you any gain above 2500 rpm.

I still have the 2600 sitting in my basement if you want it cheap. Less than 5K on it. Just let me know.

The best way to describe driving a higher stall TC is comparing it to starting you car off the line in 2nd gear (a second gear start). You push on the gas, the engine revs up and sounds nasty, but you don't move forward very slowly (unless you mash it).

I truly like the SY3500 and would recommend it about all others (I have 3.23 gears too). More efficient than the Vigs, and easier off the line. Gives you nice power.

But, if you only want a small boost, then the 2600 is good for 2/10ths and I can give you mine for a low price (half price or whatever).

 

I mean I want my car to maintain the stock feeling while being able to take 99.9% of the cars on the street. I can do that stock but with the 2600 TC, I've a little edge.

Do I lose any power if I get a 2600 TC? Any high end power? May be stupid question but better safe than sorry.

My car will still feel very stock like, correct? Which gears would be perfect for the 2600 TC? 3.23, 3.42 or 3.73?

Thanks.

 

The feel of a TC is always subjective. I say that a Yank 2600 will feel very stock, but the first time you drive it (after driving with a normal 1600 rpm or so convertor), you will feel the difference in looseness at partial throttle and definitely the extra pull at WOT. But you will get used it very quickly - if someone else was to drive your car with the Stealth in it (and they never had driven it before), they'd never know the difference. Only somene (like yourself) who has driven the car before and after the TC install could tell. For example, my wife never knew I had the Stealth in the car when she tried driving it. Though she did notice the diffrence when I put the SY3500 in (it is more loose and the higher stall causes the exhaust to sound louder). IMO, I think a lot of people, if they're not familiar with a big V8, would not even notice anything strange even if you had a 3500 installed and tried driving it - I think they'd just assume that was the normal nature of the transmission.

On a 2600 with a STR of 1.9 or so, you'll already be roasting the tires severely. Gears would increase this effect, which (IMO) would only be useful to you if you had real sticky tires. I had 3.23s and the 2600, and my F1s would fry. When I put on the Nittos 555R's, they were much more capable of handling the wheelspin. You'd be happy with the punch of 3.23s.

The 2600 is precisely like stock once over 2500 rpm or so. Exact same efficiency. You would lose no top end power (and gain only a little top end) and all the change is down low (like adding 50 ft-lbs of torque). The only thing you'd notice is that when your tranny shifts, it will feel softer, at WOT - this is because the TC doesn't drop the rpms down as much at the shift points (as it tries to keep you at the more optimum higher rpms). When you hit 6000 rpm (for example) and the tranny shifts, with a higher stall TC, it will drop to (for example) 3500 rpm, rather than 3000 rpm (when stock). This smaller drop will make the shift feel softer. Btw, the rpm numbers I used are just arbitrary.

 

Check my thread LS1 no spark before you pull your trans out. I have a 2800 Vigilante. It takes more gas pedal to putz around town and the exhaust is louder but I got used to it and I am happy with it. I have 3.42 gears

 

Get one, you will love it.

 

You say the shifts will feel softer up top but the car won't actually be slower up top, correct? If anything, it will be slightly faster up top, correct?

I will definitely get a noticable gain, correct?

Thanks.