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Old Jul 17, 2003 | 10:11 PM
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Question Which subframe?

Which sub-frame connector is best? dynamic MotorSports or ??? I've heard of BMR, but I don't know what it stands for, its website,or any other sfc connector suppliers. Opinions? Comments? Suggestions?

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Old Jul 17, 2003 | 10:29 PM
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I am after Global West subframes. 2 in diameter thick wall tubing.
Old Jul 17, 2003 | 10:33 PM
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Is it round or square tubing? Is there a difference in the strength between the two?

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Old Jul 17, 2003 | 11:12 PM
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Boxed BMR SFC's are best IMO. The double dimond SFC's seem to be hyped up to me.
Old Jul 17, 2003 | 11:49 PM
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Kenny Brown Double Diamonds, & no they are not overrated.
Old Jul 18, 2003 | 12:14 AM
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Boxed BMRs. Double Diamond SFCs seemed a little unecessary to me since my car's for straight line performance and the DDs add unecessary weight, plus I dont have anything close to resembling a torque monster anyway. DD, Boxed and tubular will all do the same job. Just personal preference. If I had the choice to do it again, I'd probably have gone tubular.

www.BMRfabrication.com is BMR's site. All I can say is I'm very pleased with the fit and finish on my SFCs and LCAs.

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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 03:40 AM
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Get the KKDD's.
Old Jul 18, 2003 | 09:44 AM
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Boxed or square is stronger than tublar but you loose ground clearance. But most say only needed if you are dragging with 400 HP or more. Here is what I have, they feel very tight
http://www.dynamicmotorsports.com/DMS%20SFCs.htm
they are tubular and a little larger tubing than BMR for the same price. They tuck up under and are slightly visible from the side. No loss of ground clearance. Fit was good. Later>>>>>>

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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 10:19 AM
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Well, my Z28 is only slightly modified: HyperTech programmer, K&N filter element, and FlowMaster muffler. Do I even NEED a sfc then at all? I don't intend any radical engine mod's (CA is too tough on smog laws).

What do you guys/gals think? Is this a waste of money for me/unnecessary?

Again, thanks for eveyone's input...
Daryl

Old Jul 18, 2003 | 10:24 AM
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The question you need to ask yourself is, do you really want weld-on SFC, I'm a believer in the bolt-on SFC.

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Old Jul 18, 2003 | 10:51 AM
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DarkAge53,
I researched both, bolt-on and weld-in sfc's. Information suggests that the bolt-on's have more of a liklihood to ream-out the hole that the bolt that holds them in place uses, thus negating some of the affect/purpose. Seemed to make sense to me since with welding-in there's no chance of it moving even the slightest. I'm no expert for sure, but that info, found in more than one place, seemed logical enough for me so I tend to believe it. But again, I'm certainly no expert on this stuff and that's why I'm open to opinioins/suggestions/feedback.

It's still under consideration though... and thanks for your input.

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Daryl
Old Jul 18, 2003 | 12:00 PM
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Boxed or square is stronger than tublar but you loose ground clearance.
I dont know why people spread this BS. I have BMR boxed subframes and i lost ZERO ground clearance. They tuck up real tight against the floor board, and chances are your y-pie will still hang 2 inches lower than the sfc will. I have people in my local f-body club that have loist more ground clearance with their tubular sfc's than I have with my boxed. If your losing ground clearance, then your sfc's werent installed right.
Old Jul 18, 2003 | 12:30 PM
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I'm a believer of welded SFCs

If you have any questions, I'll be happy to help
Old Jul 18, 2003 | 12:47 PM
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www.spectaclesolutions.net <-- double-diamond bolt-in SFC's. We've had people running them in our club for years, even doing some serious auto-X.

No bolt hole elongation, no warping, no bolts backing out ..... no problems.

I've had them on my car for over a year.
Old Jul 18, 2003 | 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by Aklaim
I dont know why people spread this BS. I have BMR boxed subframes and i lost ZERO ground clearance. They tuck up real tight against the floor board, and chances are your y-pie will still hang 2 inches lower than the sfc will... If your losing ground clearance, then your sfc's werent installed right.
I just checked mine, both my stock cats hang down farther than my boxed SFCs. And the y-pipe hangs down a least an inch further. Yes, I can see my SFCs if I get down low enough and look under the car. But my car is black and so are my powdercoated SFCs. Besides, I think they look cool! (They're also giving me some additional, under-the-car protection).

And someone mentioned weight? I weighed mine before I installed them- my DD bolt-ons from www.spectaclesolutions.net weighed only 15lbs each.

Funny, people use terms like 'unecessary' and 'overkill'. Half the **** I put on my car is unecessary.

Finally, I can't vouch for other SFC bolt-on installs, but I doubt mine are going anywhere- but I'll keep an eye on them.



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