Completely stock is a Camaro SS or a Pontiac T/A WS6 faster? I think the WS6 because if I read right the SS has ~310 HP and the WS6 ~325. Also is a torque converter effective on a M6? or just A4's? I've used the search tool and gave up after a bit.

 

SS vs. WS6, eh...? Not going to touch that one...

Only automatic transmissions have torque converter.

TS

 

Hah is that another subject that is high heat around here... I'm not asking for opinions really just which has more stock HP, not which has more potential or any of that.

Thx for lettin me know about the TC, i dunno if I wanna bother with an M6 or not although I know if I get an a4 i'll hate myself forever after that.

 

They are both the same power. SS weighs a little less but WS6 looks a little cooler (IMHO) so it's really a draw.

Torque converters are only used in automatics. So if you want to be serious about being fast at a 1/4 mile track then get the A4 and stall it up. If you just want to have fun around town and don't see a lot of traffic jams then get the M6 and you'll be happy.

As far as SS or WS6 goes, like I said it's a draw so just get the one you think looks cooler

A4's rule the track

M6's rule the street

Both are fun as heck so you can't go wrong either way.

 

thx alot man that really clears it up a lot, so I guess my challenge now is to decide whether I wanna rule the streets or the track

since this thread is open I'll ask, I read up on TC's at TCI's site but no where did I see why a higher stall is better, I checked the "flash stall" of my Hyundai Tiburon and its 2000 rpms... so why is that worse than it being at 3500...? as with the TCI 3500..

 

Higher stalls are better because they push you into your power band and keep you there. Stock stalls on LS1's are around 1800. At that low of rpm your car has very little pull power because it's way out of it's power band. But a 3500 stall TC allows your car to jump into your powerband as soon as you floor it and you basically take off like a bat out of hell if you have traction.

Now for a stock LS1 that is daily drivin you would not want to go any higher then 3500 stall. If you go higher it will feel very "loose". When you tap the gas pedal fast and let off a LS1 will thrust you forward, that is feeling "tight". When you get a high stall and you tap the gas you may not even move at all or very sluggishly. That is feeling loose. But when you floor it you take off like there is no tomarrow. Problem is you have to floor it all the time and imagine what that does to your gas mileage not to mention it'll get annoying if you have a loud exhaust.

Guys who only use thier car for track racing will get 4000-4400 stall TC. Guys who drive the car around town a lot will usually stick with 3000-3800 stalls.

I highly recommend TCI SSF3500 with a trans cooler and shift kit. It's plenty tight for daily driving because of it's higher str of 2.5 and gains the average ls1 .5 or .6 in the 1/4 mile. Plus it's about $400 cheaper then the Yanks which are the top of the line converters. TCI 3500 also will handle up to a 200 shot of N20 which is another bonus.

But with any aftermarket converter you have to get drag radials or slicks because they will roast street tires. All the power in the world is useless if you can't put it to the ground.

Good Luck

 

Correct me if im wrong but, i think both SS and WS6 is rated 320 hp from 98-00, and the 01-02 is rated 325.
SS with SLP options is rated 335 hp
Firehawk is rated 345 hp
Is this correct......????

 

I really appreciate all the info guys, great community here. I'm still confused as to whether I want an a4 or m6 but I guess it will come in time, right now whatever I get the mods are ready to be bought, the only question I have is with the tr224 cam with 114LSA, will 1.7 rocker arms suffice or should I go lower to compensate for faster ramp rates?

 

Yeah, and the SS had a 345 hp option in 02.

 

Stock for the LS1 is 1.7, if you go lower you'll mess up your valvetrain geometry and create less lift. Don't worry about the ramp rates, they're roller cams.

As for which is faster an M6 or A4, depends on if you can drive an M6 really well. It also depends on what you want out of your car.

 

How can u tell which 02 SS has the 345hp option..?
Is it the red 35th anniversary SS with the silver rally stripes.?

 

I know the 35 th LEs have it, I don't know if any others could get it.

 

35th LEs.....???? what is that

 

If you are all ready a good or great stick driver then I would probably advise the M6 for "fun factor",

But if your not and you want to go run your car at your local track once a month or more then I highly recommend the A4 with a torque converter. They pull in awesome 1/4 mile times and are very consistant. Launching a M6 is definately trickier then launching an A4 and the computer never misses a shift.

But if you don't plan on many track days and don't sit in a lot of bumper to bumper traffic jams I can't think of any reason a M6 wouldn't be the better choice if you can drive stick or are willing to learn.

Good Luck

 

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