SLP Smooth Air Bellow
Anyone use this, and find a difference? I have been considering one for my 2000 Trans AM, along with the SLP air lid. So I suppose i am wondering if the bellow is worth purchasing?
Your thoughts are appreciated!
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2000 Trans AM, Black on Black Leather, T-tops Hurst shifter on the T56 6 speed, Totally stock.
Kills:
Domestic: none to date
Imports - 2-0
Your thoughts are appreciated!
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2000 Trans AM, Black on Black Leather, T-tops Hurst shifter on the T56 6 speed, Totally stock.
Kills:
Domestic: none to date
Imports - 2-0
It adds about 100 horsepower. Seriously, it just reduces the push on the whisper lid a tad and looks nice. Other than that it does nothing.
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Grand Rapids, MI
2002 WS6
http://www.sigma-epsilon.org/steve
stevedertien@attbi.com
Whisper Lid, Grotyohann Headers and Y-pipe, Corsa Exhaust, BMR SFC's, McLeod Single Disk, Spohn Torque Arm, LCA and Panhard Rod and much more to come
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Grand Rapids, MI
2002 WS6
http://www.sigma-epsilon.org/steve
stevedertien@attbi.com
Whisper Lid, Grotyohann Headers and Y-pipe, Corsa Exhaust, BMR SFC's, McLeod Single Disk, Spohn Torque Arm, LCA and Panhard Rod and much more to come
how is it cheap? its stupid money! like the other guy said.. 6 bux at home depot!
50.00 for 2hp?!
i guess this is why SLP is in buisness.. $$$$$$$$$$ PROFIT $$$$$$$$$
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DaveD
1998 WS6 #207
-ARE Stage II Head/Cam
1998 Regal GS
-It Has Boost
The Phantom of CamaroZ28.com
Http://PhantomTA.cz28.com
50.00 for 2hp?!
i guess this is why SLP is in buisness.. $$$$$$$$$$ PROFIT $$$$$$$$$
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DaveD
1998 WS6 #207
-ARE Stage II Head/Cam
1998 Regal GS
-It Has Boost
The Phantom of CamaroZ28.com
Http://PhantomTA.cz28.com
Its easy to slam companies for charging what seems too much for a product especially if you can buy a simple replacement from homedepot for 6 bucks, but lets be fair for a minute. The reason the SLP part is expensive is because of "economies of scale" they will not be selling 100,000 of these agreed? If they were the cost would probably be $15, if they sell a few thousand a year they will be lucky. So what they are trying to recoup is the cost for the tooling, the machine tool to run the tool, and the material. Be thankful they are at least offering these parts as an option to buy.
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99 SS, Dark Metallic Blue, M6
SLP lid, KN, TBB, SLP Y-pipe, loudmouth
ported MAFs
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99 SS, Dark Metallic Blue, M6
SLP lid, KN, TBB, SLP Y-pipe, loudmouth
ported MAFs
Thanks guys! So I guess it's pointless and a waste of money to purchase a bellow. Now, I'll forget about that and put that money towards exhaust. Thanks again!
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2000 Trans AM, Black on Black Leather, T-tops Hurst shifter on the T56 6 speed, Totally stock.
Kills:
Domestic: 1-0
Imports: 3-0
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2000 Trans AM, Black on Black Leather, T-tops Hurst shifter on the T56 6 speed, Totally stock.
Kills:
Domestic: 1-0
Imports: 3-0
Airflow will be improved by removing the turbulence created by the accordian shape in the stock bellows. Improved airflow (smooth) will increase how much air can be sucked into the motor, which means more HP, but how much is the question. From what I have seen, the smooth bellows is good for about 2-3 rwhp, you decide if its worth it for $50. But wait we can do a quick analysis of the numbers. Comparing it to an LS6 intake and a catback exhaust system, we will assume the following:
1. Bellows is worth 2 rwhp @ $50
2. LS6 intake is worth 16 rwhp @ $460
3. Borla catback is worth 10 rwhp @ $600
Doing a simple calculation of $$ divided by rwhp we get:
1. Bellows costs $25/hp
2. LS6 intake costs $30/hp
3. Borla CB costs $60/hp
The bellows is the best deal per HP gained, if the numbers are accurate. I think it is entirely reasonable to see 2 rwhp from the bellows, therefore its a good deal.
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99 SS, Dark Metallic Blue, M6
SLP lid, KN, TBB, SLP Y-pipe, loudmouth
ported MAFs
1. Bellows is worth 2 rwhp @ $50
2. LS6 intake is worth 16 rwhp @ $460
3. Borla catback is worth 10 rwhp @ $600
Doing a simple calculation of $$ divided by rwhp we get:
1. Bellows costs $25/hp
2. LS6 intake costs $30/hp
3. Borla CB costs $60/hp
The bellows is the best deal per HP gained, if the numbers are accurate. I think it is entirely reasonable to see 2 rwhp from the bellows, therefore its a good deal.
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99 SS, Dark Metallic Blue, M6
SLP lid, KN, TBB, SLP Y-pipe, loudmouth
ported MAFs
I have the new bellow from ls1-motorsports. i can't really notice too big of a difference, but i heard its good for 3-5hp. maybe a waste of 50 bucks, but theres a saying...go big or go home. I dont like to lose, and every bit helps if you ask me. get all those little things, and they add up, so when the supercharger 98 ****stang gt pulls up, you can beat the crap out of him on motor...like me.
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Scott Parkinson
2001 Sunset Orange Z-28
SLP Loud Mouth Cat-Back Exhaust, LS1 Motorsports Intake Bellow, K&N Filter, MTI Clear Air Lid, Mass Air, 160 Thermistat, Power Programmer, 8.5mm Plug Wires, BMR Sway Bars, BMR STB, Competition Engineering Frame Ties, Lakewood LCA's and Panhard Rod, 125 hp Shot. Runnin low 12's all day.
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Scott Parkinson
2001 Sunset Orange Z-28
SLP Loud Mouth Cat-Back Exhaust, LS1 Motorsports Intake Bellow, K&N Filter, MTI Clear Air Lid, Mass Air, 160 Thermistat, Power Programmer, 8.5mm Plug Wires, BMR Sway Bars, BMR STB, Competition Engineering Frame Ties, Lakewood LCA's and Panhard Rod, 125 hp Shot. Runnin low 12's all day.
ok maybe the tables turn there! I'll have to look into it more in depth. Thanks Guys
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2000 Trans AM, Black on Black Leather, T-tops Hurst shifter on the T56 6 speed, Totally stock.
Kills:
Domestic: 1-0
Imports: 3-0
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2000 Trans AM, Black on Black Leather, T-tops Hurst shifter on the T56 6 speed, Totally stock.
Kills:
Domestic: 1-0
Imports: 3-0
I have one. I don't know if it added any power but it looks cool. I also did some research on it before I bought it and found some posts about the fenco hoses from home depot either falling off or even collapsing in on itself because of the vacuum created by the engine. I don't know if this is true but I went the safe route and bought the slp bellows.
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2001 Camaro SS A4
Slp d/d cat back exhaust
Slp whisper lid
Whisper MAF ends
ASP Crank Pully
Best et: 12.98 @108.4
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2001 Camaro SS A4
Slp d/d cat back exhaust
Slp whisper lid
Whisper MAF ends
ASP Crank Pully
Best et: 12.98 @108.4
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Btchslp:
1. Bellows costs $25/hp
2. LS6 intake costs $30/hp
3. Borla CB costs $60/hp</font>
1. Bellows costs $25/hp
2. LS6 intake costs $30/hp
3. Borla CB costs $60/hp</font>
->ME<-3 years with Fernco, got it for $4 and loving it.
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I bought the SLP bellows, mostly for the sake of appearance. If it was a bit longer I'd be happier with the fit, and I haven't noticed any improvement in the way the car runs, but I didn't expect to. It definitely looks better than the OEM piece, though. I don't regret it.
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1986 Buick Regal T-Type TE44, .030" TRW's, 43 lb injectors, ATR Downpipe, wastegate, ram air and exhaust, Lubrant chips, custom converter by Alan, Hot-wired 340 fuel pump, Bilstein shocks, GNX wheels, Ultralite gauges, and the whole METCO catalog
New Better Faster Engine Under Construction
1987 Buick Regal Turbo T 'Old Gray' GM Hi-Tech Performance magazine's project car - Ron Joseph bullet, Stage 5 60-1 turbo, DeQuick VR4 intercooler, Level 10 trans and converter, staged double pumper fuel system, 55 lb injectors, Bilstein shocks, Ultralite gauges, and the whole METCO catalog
2002 Camaro SS Sebring Silver hardtop with ebony leather, Hurst shifter, SLP lid, bellows, and ATS adapter, PS filter, CAGS!, BMR chrome-moly STB, METCO LCA's and bolt-in driveshaft loop
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1986 Buick Regal T-Type TE44, .030" TRW's, 43 lb injectors, ATR Downpipe, wastegate, ram air and exhaust, Lubrant chips, custom converter by Alan, Hot-wired 340 fuel pump, Bilstein shocks, GNX wheels, Ultralite gauges, and the whole METCO catalog
New Better Faster Engine Under Construction
1987 Buick Regal Turbo T 'Old Gray' GM Hi-Tech Performance magazine's project car - Ron Joseph bullet, Stage 5 60-1 turbo, DeQuick VR4 intercooler, Level 10 trans and converter, staged double pumper fuel system, 55 lb injectors, Bilstein shocks, Ultralite gauges, and the whole METCO catalog
2002 Camaro SS Sebring Silver hardtop with ebony leather, Hurst shifter, SLP lid, bellows, and ATS adapter, PS filter, CAGS!, BMR chrome-moly STB, METCO LCA's and bolt-in driveshaft loop


