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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 11:03 AM
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LS1 ss hood will cause uneccessary lift.
Not neccessarily. The scoop is far enough back that it is out of the main airflow. Yet another reason for no performance benefit due to the hood.

I thought the back of the SS hood was blocked off?? If it is, it's obviously non-functional
It is open in front and routes the air to the opening of the air box. It is functional in that aspect, but not as a cowl induction. It just provides asthetic benefits more than it does performance, unless the Z has a heavy steel hood compared to the light SS hood. I can't remember if the Z's hood is steel or fiberglass.....getting older!!!!

Ya, you can run the same in a Z, but the SS will always have a higher resale value (all things equal). Besides better shocks there are other things that make up for the cost difference. Personally, I got my SS used for a low price and low miles so I can't complain.

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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 04:29 PM
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I thought the back of the SS hood was blocked off
No its not blocked off but its not sealed to the air intake, SLP claims this is so that rain water doesn't get into the air intake. It does supply more air though. The V6 mustangs are blocked off right at the grill and from what my Mustang friend was saying, the GT lets air in through the grill but is blocked off under the hood.
Old Aug 8, 2003 | 07:10 PM
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It sure dosent look like it helps the SS alot, seeing where the scoop is and the intake.. The WS6 is obviously a little better.

However, my ultraZ hood tops them both, you can reach into the scoop and touch the filter...... Even then, i didnt notice any gain and dont think it helped me at the track. But at least i know its getting cooler air i guess.... RamAir is just a sales pitch. Looks good though.
Old Aug 9, 2003 | 02:57 PM
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Well, I do know that there isn't a lick of difference in acceleration performance between an SS and a Z28. If it is functional, it ain't doing much.

That's all I know.
Do you have an ss or z28?

If you have an ss its just cuz you cant drive.
If you have a z28, its just cuz whoever you raced couldnt drive.
i notice a difference. its not huge but its a noticeable enough.
Old Aug 9, 2003 | 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by 99blackSS
No its not blocked off but its not sealed to the air intake, SLP claims this is so that rain water doesn't get into the air intake. It does supply more air though. The V6 mustangs are blocked off right at the grill and from what my Mustang friend was saying, the GT lets air in through the grill but is blocked off under the hood.
the gt is completely blocked off, except for the mach1.
The gt has a solid plastic grill in the scoop
Old Aug 9, 2003 | 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by krillanaross
Do you have an ss or z28?

If you have an ss its just cuz you cant drive.
If you have a z28, its just cuz whoever you raced couldnt drive.
i notice a difference. its not huge but its a noticeable enough.
Hah, I'd watch who you're telling that they can't drive, considering you're running a 13.6 at the same MPH that many people have hit bottom 13's with.

The difference is marginal at best, it's not going to give a few tenths or MPH in the 1/4; it's equivalent to doing a free mod, maybe picking up a couple ponies.
Old Aug 9, 2003 | 06:18 PM
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Originally posted by krillanaross
Do you have an ss or z28?

If you have an ss its just cuz you cant drive.
If you have a z28, its just cuz whoever you raced couldnt drive.
i notice a difference. its not huge but its a noticeable enough.
Ramair is 50hp aint it?

trust me, on an SS especially its impossible to notice a difference, if you did its all i your head. My car is as ramair as it gets, and i did notice anything.
Old Aug 9, 2003 | 06:37 PM
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as far as static pressure in any kind of ductwork any time air turns a coner (90 degrees) it adds 25 feet of lenght. so by thr time the air gets to the throttle body its like its travled around the car twice!so any static pressure is virtually gone. as far as cooler more dence outer air , their may be some advantage there. ad far as reaching inside your scoop and touching the filter what happens when it rains, free water injection?
Old Aug 9, 2003 | 07:01 PM
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far as reaching inside your scoop and touching the filter what happens when it rains, free water injection?

the water obviously gets stopped by the filter.
Old Aug 12, 2003 | 02:23 AM
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So, what if the LT1 SS airbox is used in an LS1 SS? Think it'll fit?

If the LS1 SS hood isnt' functional, where does the added power come from? ...

....the SS emblems maybe...


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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 02:38 AM
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So, what if the LT1 SS airbox is used in an LS1 SS? Think it'll fit?If the LS1 SS hood isnt' functional, where does the added power come from? ...
....the SS emblems maybe...
Akshay
Let me guess you own a Z? When will Z28 owners finally admit there is a higher model?
Old Aug 12, 2003 | 02:57 AM
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I switched my z28 emblems to SS's and I felt at least a 15 hp gain.. I swear!

Seriously though I think the scoop is kewl looking.. SS's are great..
Old Aug 12, 2003 | 08:00 AM
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Originally posted by 99blackSS
Let me guess you own a Z? When will Z28 owners finally admit there is a higher model?
yeah, there is a higher model.. it wears Z06 emblems..
ehhe

SS "RAM AIR" hood has never worked on the 4th gen cars.. Notice how there is little talk of "Ram air" on the marketing? If it even performed a tad bit better, it would of been hyped by the marketing crew.. Just look at the T/A.

On LT1's my LT1 Z28 could match or beat similar year model SS with similar mods.

My LS1 for sure matches and or beats bone stock SS of the same year. At the track and on the dyno. Its all good though... If we didnt like our cars this much, we wouldnt be here talking about them!
Old Aug 12, 2003 | 08:31 AM
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Originally posted by Akshay
So, what if the LT1 SS airbox is used in an LS1 SS? Think it'll fit?

If the LS1 SS hood isnt' functional, where does the added power come from? ...

....the SS emblems maybe...


Akshay
It seems Chevy underrated both cars HP numbers. However, if they were to rate them correctly there really wouldn't be a major difference in the numbers since no real HP adders are on an SS over the Z. I think Chevy just stated the SS HP number higher so that SS owners feel like we got more for our dollar. What you do get over a Z is some supsension upgrades, larger wheels, better resale value, and one sweet lookin ride. If you're shopping you can find SS's at a really good deal but if you stumble onto a Z go for it...performance wise the cars are really about an even match.
Old Aug 12, 2003 | 09:01 AM
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This is really silly. The new kids on the block actually think there is a real difference here. They're too stubborn to listen to people who have been in this game longer than they've even known about it.

Originally posted by krillanaross
Do you have an ss or z28?

If you have an ss its just cuz you cant drive.
If you have a z28, its just cuz whoever you raced couldnt drive.
i notice a difference. its not huge but its a noticeable enough.
Of course I had to respond to this. Did you notice my ET and trap speed? Maybe you can't drive. My Formula ran 13.3@108 mph, stock, and showed many SS and WS6 cars its taillights.

You should actually lay down an impressive number at the dragstrip before you talk about a noticeable difference. The only noticeable difference I see is that your car is slower...with mods.



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