Hey Camaro-Drivers,

ive a little Problem here in Germany.

I drive since 6 years a camaro z28.
Every year i change the oil and have the problem, that close before i replace the oil (9 till 10 Months after replace) the oil pressure is going a little bit down. Last year we check the filter and found no metall but lot of black, old oil (looks like swamp).
After that, we think that one or more cylinders are firing exhaust gas (sorry i dont know the correct english word for that) in the oil, but the cylinder pressure are completely ok.
Then we take a look in the cylinder heads and there are no black swamp.

Now, 1 year is around and i must soon replace my oil. I find the option with a bigger filter and Mobil 1 ESP Formula 5W30 Oil.
But the Filter i cant get in germany. The filter is: Mobil M1-206
I call Mobil 1 germany, but there the people sayd, that they dont have the US-Products
The oil will be better then Opel 5W30 i hope.

So my question, have anyone a tipp with a better filter or something like that?

 

Find out if Amsoil ships to your country.. They have good longer filters as well..

How many kilometers are you going between oil changes?

 

I once got a drive to work for a whopping 20 sec with no cover on it... that was kewl..(drive was heading south anyways.. I was working at Compaq at the time)..

 

Wait are you stating that you only do Oil changes ONCE per year and you're wondering why you're finding sludge in the filter???

 

Your oil should be changed more than once per year, even with synthetics. Thats why its black and sludgy. If you are having problems finding good oil and filters try ordering a package from Thunderracing.com. They ship internationally. Six quarts of Royal Purple and a K&n filter for 40 dollars.http://www.thunderracing.com/catalog...sid=78&pcid=74
I personally never go more than 3 thousand miles between oil changes.

 

American cars don't have near the oil capacity as German cars do and can't go as long between oil changes. Hopefully the sludge in the oil is just from a lack of oil changes and no damage has been done yet. How many miles/km do you accumulate between oil changes?

 

Thx for your replys.

In a year i go around 10000km.

You guys think its to mutch with one oilchange?

The swamp is just black, no metal inside. A couple of german camaro friends tells me in a couple of motortalking, that no one of these guys change the oil more then one time in a year.
Your arguments are new for me. But i can understand this. My oilpressure lose a quarter. The middle value is 220kpa, there the gauge ist going around on idle. On power it goes to the quarter between 220kpa and 440kpa (440 is the right end of scala). But since 3 Months the pressure on power wont go over 220kpa and on idle it falls down to the quarter between 0 and 220kpa. I try to make a picture tomorrow.
I remember, that i have nearly the same problem (but not so hard) close before the last oilchange. And i write in my first post, there we take a look in the filter and the heads.
My fear is now to find better parts, then thats no secret, we in germany drive the cars real hard
I wont damage my baby.

1 Hour ago a seller write to me, that he have a "Purolator L25288". He mean, this one is a reference to PF59. What do you think?
What means PF59? I read in other topics, that a PF59 is a long version of a PF44, but the questions is, means PF59 a Norm or a product from more then one company?

 

The PF 59 is the GM filter for the car, I ise a PF44 I believe. That's all I ever use. PF, or Puroillator Filter, makes filters that fit the same application, but can be different sizes. As fra as how much oil they hold. -Hard for me to explain. oh, PF52 and PF 47 are basically the same filter, used on 98~ish Blazers, the PF47 is used on 98~ish mailbu's.


Anyway. Oil is supposed to be changes every 6 months of 3000 miles or about every 4800 kilometers. Changing your oil in these intervals prevents sludge and contaminant build up, amongst other things.

Oh, and I agree about driving hard in Deutchland! I was there for two years and I really miss it! .. ...(I'm Half German as it is)

Mein Herz ist in Deutschland.

 

PF59 is a longer version of the PF46, but they've discontinued it. There still might be some floating around though.

 

THX for replys. Yesterday i was on a Teath OP, lots of pain in my mouth

When you think, that a pf59 can be more then one filterdimension, then i order a couple of filters in the usa.

The oilchange/rate i confused. In my german manuall are written, that GMs rules mean, that we must make 1 time per year an oilchange. In big letters under this texts are written: Please use the intervalls from the german carmanuall, not these from the usmanuall, maybe you find also in your car.

I hope my english ist not to bad. German cars can run 15.000 till 20.000 km with one oilchange so its not abnormal for me to change the oil one time in a year. But its no problem. I try to change the oil after 5000km and take a look how it works.

Thanks for help.

EDIT
@Bayer Z28

In every country you have good things and bad things. Lots of rules and laws in germany are realy bull**** and i cant deal with it. But when ever you leave your country longer then 1 Month, then you will miss all the good things you have there at this moment.
As an car-maniac, sure the first you love is the autobahn, drive so fast if you want, thats funny. But its more then that. But i love saxony, i live in meissen, thats near dresden, nice place to live. Oh, and many us/car friends here.

 

These are guide lines, recomendations from GM for oil change intervals under normal driving conditions. If the conditions are harder on the oil than normal the oil must be changed sooner.
With the oil pressure drop when nearing the end of the year, and your description of how dirty it is, I would say that you have exceeded the life of the oil.
Try changing it twice a year and see how that works out for you.

 

If you'd like and have a paypal account, I could buy 5 or how many you want filters, then you pay me on paypal, and I'll ship them to you for just the cost of shipping.

 

Yes, after that oilchange ill try that. Learning is a never ending process, so after 6 years absolutely new infomation. I will save in my head, that: When the oilpressure is going down, i must replace the oil (around 3000miles).



Thanks for your offer. I talk with our german us-carclub. A couple of people want to order some parts in the usa soon. When they have a problem to get my filters i will contact you. THX

I found specially 2 filter. I read hese are mutch better then stock-filters:

MOBIL M1-206
AC Delco Ultraguard Gold UPF58


Here, i made a quick picture of my gauge.
The green range shows the range between Idle and power, when the oil and the filter are new and warm. When the engine is cold, the gauge stands by the half in the green range.
Now (today) when the engine is cold, the gauge stands exact on 280kpa and goes on a little bit power with the cold engine a little bit over it. When the engine is warm, the red range shows the operating range. That was nearly the same close to my last oilchange (1 year ago).

 

That green range is where all of my gen 3 motors (98 Camaro, 00 Firebird, & 03 GMC pickup) run. Cruising down the road at normal speeds it would be in the center of the green area.

 

Thats hardcore, I want some import gauges.