I'm looking at buying a car. My loan request just went through. This is the information I have about the car, a '98 WS6:

Engine
ARE Stage II heads
Comp Cams titanium retainers #728
Comp Cams springs #941
ARE rev kit w/CC springs #973
Comp Cams Hi-Tech 7.300 pushrods #7949
ARE/ Lunati 222/230 .534/.544 114 LS cam
2.055/1.60 Manley valves
Comp Cams lash caps #621

Induction
LS6 intake manifold
MTI lid
ARE ported throttle body
ARE modified MAF
Modern Musclecar MAF Translator
K&N Filter

Exhaust
Grotyohann coated longtube headers
Grotyohann 3" y-pipe
Borla cat-back
!Cats

Drivetrain
Strange 12-bolt rearend w/4.11 gears
Strange custom axles
400# HD carrier
LPW aluminum cover
Mark Williams carbon fiber driveshaft
Hurst Billet+ shifter
LS Motorsports short stick
McLeod Street Twin clutch w/aluminum flywheel
GM 2001 slave cylinder/throwout bearing
AP Racing clutch master cylinder

Best ET & MPH 60'- 1.711 1/8 - 7.495 @ 93.90 mph 1/4 - 11.624 @ 121.05 mph
Best 1/8 MPH 94.67
Best 60' 1.632

Dyno Rear wheel horsepower - 431.7 @ 6100 rpm
Rear wheel torque 414.3 ft/lbs @ 4800 rpm


Everything look good in your opinions? Is the LS6 Intake cool? A. R. E. Heads? I don't know much about the lift and duration of cams. Is this cam going to be streetable?

Your opinions are all welcome.

 

Yes, yes, yes, and yes.

Although half the fun is doing it yourself

Otherwise sounds like a nice car.

 

that cam is nothing in comparison to what people are running now.

 

What do you mean?

 

Yeah, but the other half is driving it and that half will make up for it!

 

Bigger isn't always better. Some people don't want huge cams.

 

Who said anything about what is better? Better is a realitive term.

The cams most people are running now make that look extremely small.

More and more people are getting bigger and bigger numbers from larger and larger cams..

 

Why buy a car thats already done up? With all those mods its probly had the snot kicked out of it.

 

You said "that cam is nothing in comparison to what people are running now". My response is that "bigger isn't necessarily better, not everyone wants a huge cam." I didn't think it was that hard to understand. The larger cams that people are running now that "make that look extremely small" also most likely have worse idling, higher RPM powerbands, and hurt mileage more (all things leading to worse driveability, which the topic was about in the first place.)

Sure, there's T-Rexs out there and others like it making stupid amounts of peak RPM power, but who wants to drive a car with those on a daily basis? Not many (myself included.) I'd much rather have a milder cam with nice low and midrange power and a liveable idle.

 

Im trying to figure out why you are arguing with me?

I said the cam in question is "nothing in comparison to what people are running now"... Meaning people are running cams that make this cam look tiny on the street with great drivability.

Am I missing something? I dont remember saying this cam was "too small".

Better is still a realitive term, since my large, bad gas mileage, no low end or mid range cam, actually gets the same mileage and has no different drivability than my old 228/224 cam. There is no best anything when it comes to a cam. Believe me, ive sold hundreds of them.

 

I'm not arguing.

You said something, I said something, and you got defensive in return. Of course "better" is subjective. What to know what's also subjective? What's "streetable" and what's not. However, there's nothing subjective about the fact that bigger cams generally idle worse, get worse mileage, and have powerbands more concentrated in the high RPMs compared to smaller ones. That was my point. He asked if the car was streetable, you came in making a comment that the cam was small, and I pointed out that bigger cams aren't always better (and I provided reasons why.)

Perhaps we're thinking on two different wavelengths, but whatever. I see no reason to continue this, as my original comment was never intended to start an argument, and I don't know why you took it as so.

 

car should be perfectly streetable. I have a huge cam and huge stall in my car drives fine everyday. Gas mileage makes me cry but otherwise its no less streetable than your moms Camry.

 

The car should be perfectly streetable.

More importantly though, what does the owner want for the car? While its a nice piece its still a stock shortblock under there.

 

This is good to know, but what about the cam that is in the car now (ARE/ Lunati 222/230 .534/.544 114 LS cam)? I can always change the cam out later for one of my own choosing, but I'm just wondering how this one will act.
$15,000. I figure it books for about $13K, but I couldn't get the WS6 package on the Internet. With all the other mods, I figured it was a fair asking price. I havn't tried to talk him down yet. It's black on black leather, T tops, power everything, ram air hood. I'm not really too woried about it being rodded. I'm quite sure it has. What do I care? I'm going to do the same thing, you know?

 

who cares if its been rodded. all the fears of failures on a rodded car seem to have been replaced on that one.. some of the internals of the engine have been replaced. it has a new rearend and axle.. there arent to many stock components left on it id be worried about. it could use some SFC and LCA's thought

btw how many miles are on the block? cause it does however still have several stock peices left that might need replacing id get some uber forged peices inside it.

/tek.