Heel and Toe and Double Clutching
Heel and Toe and Double Clutching
Can someone go into detail on how and when to execute the heel and toe and the advantages of doing so?
I know what double clutching is, but is it necessary on an ls1? Some peeps on agree and disagree with it, but I've seen the term come up a lot after the movie Fast and the Furious.
I know what double clutching is, but is it necessary on an ls1? Some peeps on agree and disagree with it, but I've seen the term come up a lot after the movie Fast and the Furious.
I've searched around and found a perfect article on heel and toe.
http://www.edmunds.com/ownership/how...2/article.html
http://www.edmunds.com/ownership/how...2/article.html
As the article states, heel and toe is not a necessity in everyday driving. It's just a technique used for quicker lap times in a racing situation. As for whether or not double-clutching is necessary in an LS1, i'd say that it's not, but it may be a good habit to get into. I do it all the time when slowing down for a turn, or curve. Just makes the accelaration out of the turn that much smoother.
Or I could try and be like Vin Diesel and do it while running the 1/4 mile..but i'm not that cool
Or I could try and be like Vin Diesel and do it while running the 1/4 mile..but i'm not that cool
i swear to god if i hear someone else use that term from fast and the furious again i will scream. i know so many kids that know nothing about cars think that double clutching will make the car go faster. in a drag race there is only 1 way to shift the car quickly, hold the throttle to the floor 100% time, jab the clutch and pull/push the shifter as fast as possible, ideally timing the clutch pedal on the floor when your arm is moving the shifter. no other way is quicker unless you have an auto. i also like those imports on that movie running 10 sec 1/4 miles at 160 mph on the street, with street tires, yeah thats realistic!. what a stupid movie.
I never double clutched other than to get into reverse.
Heel/toe I do everyday, although not necessary, I like to keep my practice. I roadrace and heel/toe is absolutely necessary to prevent the rear tires from loosing traction coming into a corner at very high speeds.
Heel/toe I do everyday, although not necessary, I like to keep my practice. I roadrace and heel/toe is absolutely necessary to prevent the rear tires from loosing traction coming into a corner at very high speeds.
I am also SICK of hearing about double clutching and the like, I just got an A4 and let it double clutch for me!
I also love the ricers who rag on my slow auto, but I love the looks on their faces after they witness me walk them repeatedly!
I also love the ricers who rag on my slow auto, but I love the looks on their faces after they witness me walk them repeatedly!
I both rev-match and double-clutch on any big WOT downshift(two or more gears) I do in my Z. It is good for the synchro's(shifter slips right in), easier on the drivetrain(transmission), and the car is very smooth(not jerky) when I floor it. Is it completely necessary? Probably not. But can it help? Most definitely IMHO. And after some practice, rev-matching and double clutching has become very easy to do(like second-nature to me).
Mike
2002 M6 Z28
Mike
2002 M6 Z28
Originally posted by phil1001
in a drag race there is only 1 way to shift the car quickly, hold the throttle to the floor 100% time, jab the clutch and pull/push the shifter as fast as possible, ideally timing the clutch pedal on the floor when your arm is moving the shifter. no other way is quicker unless you have an auto.
in a drag race there is only 1 way to shift the car quickly, hold the throttle to the floor 100% time, jab the clutch and pull/push the shifter as fast as possible, ideally timing the clutch pedal on the floor when your arm is moving the shifter. no other way is quicker unless you have an auto.
.. A friend of mine was doing so and soon was having to rework his tranny.. but gosh he must of been a whole .0002 seconds faster than using the clutch.. hehe

In my mind, I dont see any point to risking any damage when you are mid 12's or slower... Why bother..
Double clutching is usually reserved for those driving big rigs, or anyone with a Ford Ranger peice of **** 5 speed. I see no reason to double clutch the car, maybe for reverse sometimes as it doesn't want to get into gear. When shifting, if you have been used to a manual transmission for a while, you can hit your shifts perfectly every time with no drop in mph, on downshifting, I find it quite easier to (at the same time) move the gear selector into neutral, blip the throttle and plop it into the next gear... no clutch needed.
Now if somebody would just sell their T56 or perhaps trade it for my A4 and maybe $500 that would be heaven.
Now if somebody would just sell their T56 or perhaps trade it for my A4 and maybe $500 that would be heaven.
You guys are confusing the hell out of me with the double clutching. What is the real deal with it? Who really really knows? I need to hear from someone who has a lot of experience. Tomorrow I am attending speed trials at Metro Zoo, so maybe I can speak to a veteran and really find out. I will post up what I hear tomorrow.
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